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  •  A weekend match, depending on shooting (0+ / 0-)

    discipline will run between 120 rounds to 200 rounds.  

    With a little practice before hand, that is easily 500 rounds a weekend.

    There are over 10,000 western 3-gun shooters every weekend...except in very bad weather.  So, just for this one discipline, that can be 5 million rounds per week.  

    A normal 38 special load with most powders would run aroun 3 grains (7000 grains to the pound).  So that will produce around 2000 and change cartridges.

    So, 2 to 3 pounds of powder and about 90 pounds of lead for bullets for 5000 38's with 125 gr bullets.

    ATF is interested in firearms or if you sell the ammunition you reload.  If you make it for yourself, no regulation.

    •  By the way, in almost 30 years of the western 3 (0+ / 0-)

      gun sport, there has never been a fatality.

    •  I just saw that: Make shit up. (0+ / 0-)

      Thanks.  Nice way to call someone a liar.

      I gave you a 'normal scenario' right above this.  But, the top shooters do practice what I mentioned at first.  And there are more people who want to be top shooters, so they practice too.

      It's unbelievable the amount of lead they can use in a weekend.

      In many cases, it's recycled every couple of years.

      •  Yeah well - numbers don't add up. (0+ / 0-)

        80 million bullets - low end estimate - per week equals around 4 billion per year, your high end estimate 500 million per week comes to around 25 billion a year.

        But according to Oxfam, world production is around 12 billion rounds per year.

        So with your low end case, your US sport shooters are consuming one third of the world's supply, at the other end they are using 200% of the world's supply.

        Doesn't leave much for the US army, Chinese army, Syrian rebels hunters, LEO's etc.

        •  Your math sucks asshat. (0+ / 0-)

          500 per week times 10,000 shooters equals 5 million.

          Say, half of the weekends, on average is 26 weeks, equals 130,000,000 cartridges per year.

          Add to that the serious competition practice and training rounds...you end up with a very sizeable number.

          And, these guys don't BUY cartridges, as a rule.  They build their own.  They are reloaders.  That won't show up in any government statistic.

          That doesn't count, skeet shooters, trap shooters, sporting clays shooters, modern 3 gun shooters, long range precision shooters.

          •  Heh SFB - your math is as bad as yr comprehension (0+ / 0-)

            The comment I replied to this one was talking about 5000, that is thousands, rounds per week, and 80,000 shooters.

            Before you criticize read the post, and then don't try to piss on me by changing the data.

            I guess by the fact you are now downgrading the numbers to more realistic estimates, you agree that the original numbers were pulled out of someone's ass.

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