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  •  With a car stopped not 15 feet away? (5+ / 0-)

    And with the woman right there trying to stop her dog?

    You'd likely be in jail right now for involuntary manslaughter.

    People talk like this all the time, but look at the ABC TV program What Would You Do when they did their program on people with guns reacting to a situation. They almost all failed.  Guns simply aren't safe 99% of the time.

    Liberalism is trust of the people tempered by prudence. Conservatism is distrust of the people tempered by fear. ~William E. Gladstone, 1866

    by absdoggy on Wed Dec 19, 2012 at 08:33:10 PM PST

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    •  The only way I would have a gun (11+ / 0-)

      is if I had serious training to use it first. I don't have a gun, nor do I want one, but I wouldn't trust myself with one unless I really felt like I knew how to use it.

      Yes, there is an issue here that this gun owner didn't use proper precaution or procedure. That's a huge issue.

      What bothers me in this story is that the man was charged because he was only protecting his dog and not himself. That's the point of my comment. I would also protect my dog if another dog attacked her.

      In the case I mentioned, the woman was completely unable to get control of her dog. The dog was too big for her to control, she couldn't even get a hold on its leash. I had to drag my 6 pound puppy outside the range of the 20' leash while a 80 lb rottweiler was trying to hurt her. I had to drag her into the middle of the street where we could have both been hit by a car. I don't even know how she survived, other than I reacted really quickly and practically ran out into the street dragging her full force with the leash that was around her neck. I had to basically strangle my dog to get her to safety and the woman was no help.

      I wouldn't want to shoot a dog, or anything else, but I am saying my instinct would  be to protect my dog, who is properly trained and on a leash whenever in public, the way all dogs should be. I feel bad for dogs that get killed because their owners don't properly train or control them, I really do, but I wouldn't want to sacrifice my dog to one.

      •  In fact (6+ / 0-)

        Just to add one more thing.

        The only reason I have ever even considered getting a gun is because I have had so many close calls trying to walk my dog. I don't know if this is an AZ thing or what, but about 75% of the time when I have tried to walk my dog we have encountered loose dogs or aggressive dogs that the owners can't control.

        Dogs are the most dangerous animals in the U.S. 31 people were killed by dogs last year. I believe the average is 25 - 30 a year. Compare that to, for instance, bears who kill less than one person a year on average.

    •  There's no such crime as ... (0+ / 0-)

      involuntary MANslaughter against an animal.  

      "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

      by Neuroptimalian on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 12:30:44 AM PST

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      •  I read it as (1+ / 0-)
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        implying that she might accidentally kill the owner (hence the involuntary part).

        "Okay, until next time. Keep sending me your questions, and I will make fun of you... I mean, answer them." - Strong Bad

        by AaronInSanDiego on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:09:03 AM PST

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        •  Ah, well there's that, I suppose. (0+ / 0-)

          It just didn't strike me that way.

          "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

          by Neuroptimalian on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:57:23 AM PST

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