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    From the exact same day:

    WASHINGTON -- The White House made a new offer to House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) on Monday to avoid the so-called fiscal cliff. The proposal matches the amount of spending cuts with revenue-raisers, calls for two stimulus measures and seeks an avoidance of a debt limit fight for the next two years.
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    In his latest offer to Boehner, the president proposes $800 billion in savings, including $290 billion in interest savings, $100 billion in defense cuts, and $130 billion in savings that would come from an adjustment to the inflation index for Social Security benefits. The administration insisted that there would be "protections for most-vulnerable populations" perhaps by indexing the changes so that they don't affect those with low-income.
    We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

    Who cares what the fucking Republicans would vote for? They'd vote for cooking poor children and exporting them as delicacies if they had the chance. -- Jim P

    by Colorado is the Shiznit on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:07:11 AM PST

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    •  there is no agreeing to disagree on facts (3+ / 0-)
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      Yoshimi, vcmvo2, durrati

      facts are facts; to disagree with facts is to deny reality.

      here is what durrati's article said:

      Amid news reports that President Obama is considering a proposal from House Speaker John Boehner to slow the growth of Social Security payments over time as part of a broader budget deal to avoid the fiscal cliff, senior Democratic congressional aides are portraying the idea as a more palatable alternative to other benefit cuts Republicans have sought.

      As part of a deal that would include higher taxes on top earners and an increase in the debt limit, Republicans are pushing a plan to index Social Security benefits and perhaps tax brackets to a slower-growing measure of inflation called chained CPI.

      so the language clearly indicates that it originated as a republican idea.  if you want to argue it's not iron-clad, that'd be one thing.  

      but what you quoted in no way refutes durrati's claim:

      In his latest offer to Boehner, the president proposes $800 billion in savings, including $290 billion in interest savings, $100 billion in defense cuts, and $130 billion in savings that would come from an adjustment to the inflation index for Social Security benefits..
      the key word there is "latest."  that obama's latest offer includes chained CPI does NOT establish that the idea originally came from Obama.  

      what was obama's first proposal to boehner et al?  did it include chained CPI? what is the first news story where we see the idea presented?

      Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

      by Cedwyn on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:20:00 AM PST

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    •  I see an attempt to turn this diary (4+ / 0-)

      into another WWE wrestling match, only virtual.

      Let's not.

      A thousand Sharkeys are invading a thousand Shires every day across our country.--James Wells

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:33:20 AM PST

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