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View Diary: Why Can't We Have "Inverse-Amish" Communities That are Hyper-Scientific and Technological? (95 comments)

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  •  Does a tight knit community (2+ / 0-)
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    Troubadour, terrypinder

    advance or deter scientific discovery?  

    Are major experiments economically sustainable?  There is a reason why DOD, DOE, and major corporations are involved.  

    A builder of scientific communities.

    •  Pursuit of economically sustainable means (1+ / 0-)
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      to undertake major experiments could be one of the important ongoing achievements of such a community.  Not everything with great significance has to involve baroque engineering - in fact, creativity is often stifled the more bloated, bureaucratic, and politicized science becomes.

      In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

      by Troubadour on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 08:48:46 AM PST

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      •  Seed money is the big issue. (2+ / 0-)
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        ROI can be great but anything on the scale of Hadron can only be made viable through the funding by government (s).  And with this funding strings are always attached.

        But once you get beyond your obligations to government, many of our ongoing experiments are actually making money and our major labs hold patents on the building blocks of our world.

        Would you consider CERN a scientific community or is it a Government centered lab like our DOE labs: Oak Ridge, LLBL, LLNL, Argonne, Etc?

        •  CERN is more about diplomacy than anything (0+ / 0-)

          but it's still entirely dependent on the good graces of governments - i.e., not at all an organic community.  I definitely support such endeavors, but I'm asking why we can't have real communities of people who are independently pursuing scientific and technological objectives.

          In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

          by Troubadour on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:24:31 AM PST

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