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View Diary: Why Can't We Have "Inverse-Amish" Communities That are Hyper-Scientific and Technological? (95 comments)

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  •  Doesn't have to be populated with prima donnas. (0+ / 0-)

    Not every scientist is a giant ego monster who constantly obsesses on trivial minutiae.  Those people can stay at the universities.  I'm just wondering about everyone else, who just wants to make progress.

    In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

    by Troubadour on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:41:32 AM PST

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    •  I have never run across (1+ / 0-)
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      a place that had a lot of smart people that didn't also have an almost terminal competitiveness to it.  The smarter people get, and the more successful in their field, the more they tend to believe they have more answers than they really do.  And the neuroses in BBT are, in my experience, an only slightly exaggerated version of the real thing.

      Yeah, Academe is often a place where this gets out of control, but out of the University you get the scientists at Monsanto and BP and the like who are smart, competitive, pressured, amoral, and completely under the thumb of Big Money, which can make them even more neurotic.

      I am not religious, and did NOT say I enjoyed sects.

      by trumpeter on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:48:22 AM PST

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      •  Hence the need for an alternative, right? (0+ / 0-)

        A place where the point is science, nothing else.  Obviously you can't excise human nature, but you can at least design things from the get-go to be about science and technology rather than about pleasing some bureaucrat or banker scumbag.  I'm just brainstorming here, but I don't see why people couldn't do this - why science couldn't be a social and cultural discipline in addition to an academic one.

        In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

        by Troubadour on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 10:56:47 AM PST

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