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  •  When Republicans say crazy shit, believe they will (3+ / 0-)
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    DO IT. Too many working class people say they'll vote for Republicans on cultural issues but they never really believed they'd destroy all unions, privatize everything, and steal all the earned benefits you have worked a lifetime to achieve. Even if Republicans say they want to do some of these things, people think it's all rhetoric. They won't really follow through on it. Well, in the future, believe them when they say they will do it.

    Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

    by tekno2600 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 06:31:30 AM PST

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    •  It's actually rather like global warming. (2+ / 0-)
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      The denial is extremely strong in humanity, especially when there's a quick emotional fix (voting against the evil liberals and their agenda) right now.

      By the time people wake up, they've been marginalized from the political process and the crazies have locked themselves into power.  See: gerrymandering, state legislature.

      •  Yes, but this crop of loonies is losing even in (1+ / 0-)
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        Gerrymandered districts, ala Allen West. They are too extreme for prime time.

        Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

        by tekno2600 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 07:05:50 AM PST

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        •  Yes, and where they can't rig the game... (2+ / 0-)
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          They're getting their asses kicked.  How many contested Senate races did they win these last two cycles?

          Trouble is, they've almost totally rigged the game in the Midwest, at the state level, and the result is abominations like the wingnut lame-duck orgy here in Michigan.  Obama won Michigan going away - and we didn't come CLOSE to retaking either house of the state leg.  Obama won Wisconsin going away, and yet the Republicans once more have the trifecta at the state level.  Obama won Ohio by a wide margin, and yet the Republicans have veto-proof majorities in the Ohio legislature.

          They've gotten far too good at this game, and in the states we're really starting to get hammered in earnest.

          •  Then, people are now going to have to really make (0+ / 0-)

            up their minds to do something about it. No more of this idea that being a swing voter is a virtue. We need to start a campaign that says: Never elect another Republican to anything ever again.

            Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

            by tekno2600 on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 08:34:15 AM PST

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            •  I prefer the tension (0+ / 0-)

              The tension between parties, and the balance provided by competing interests, keeps the nation from swinging too far either direction.  A person doesn't need to be a deep scholar of history to understand the danger of one-party rule.

              •  This turns out not to be the case (0+ / 0-)

                We had effective one-party rule and relatively good government in the Era of Good Feeling under Monroe, after the implosion of the Federalists, the original Party of No during eight years of Thomas Jefferson's Presidency. Then we had two parties again, Democrats representing the slaveowners, and Whigs for the corporations, especially the banks and the railroads. Slaves, women, Native Americans, and men who didn't own property couldn't vote, and so could and did lose out at every turn.

                Republicans later on were against slavery, but were and remained pro-corporate before all else. Lincoln was a railroad lawyer as much as he was an opponent of slavery.

                America—We built that!

                by Mokurai on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 11:23:13 AM PST

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              •  The real problem with so-called independents, or (1+ / 0-)
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                swing voters, or other people who say they want balance and moderation between the parties is that they are hoodwinked into believing that any smarmy politicians who distance themselves from extreme positions in their parties are unique and precious snowflakes who can go their own ways. But, by the time they get to Washington the national party campaign committees and congressional leadership can force them to do just about anything they want. So party platforms really do matter, even if some lying politicians say they don't. A Republican is a Republican, i.e. an evil corporatist tool at the core.

                Just doing my part to piss off right wing nuts, one smart ass comment at a time.

                by tekno2600 on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 04:48:43 PM PST

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                •  I agree (0+ / 0-)

                  One way or another, Washington seems to do a damned fine job of destroying the best of intentions.  I'd add though, that the Dems, too, are corporatist tools as much as are the Reps.  

                  My point, though, was that with two parties vying for control, and neither able to freely accomplish its goals without interference from the other, we're better off.  I don't like what either major party wants for America, and so I'm glad they are constantly stalemating one another.  

    •  Some Jews voted for Hitler (0+ / 0-)

      telling themselves that the anti-Semitism was just to get votes, not something he could or would carry out.

      America—We built that!

      by Mokurai on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 11:15:23 AM PST

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    •  Sigh, (0+ / 0-)

      when you are a bought and paid for legislator, better deliver on  what you were elected to do.
      Screw democracy.

      What do we want? Universal health care! When do we want it? Now!

      by cagernant on Sat Dec 22, 2012 at 12:09:11 PM PST

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