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  •  Ditto... Except... (5+ / 0-)
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    ... CSI isn't particularly violent.  It's about collecting evidence from crime scenes so they can convict criminals.  I liked it better when William Peterson was on, but it's still a good show.

    I saw about three minutes of 24 many years ago, wondered what was supposed to be so appealing.  The premise of Homeland is ridiculous, so I refuse to watch it (well, I also detest the name of DHS because it sounds too much like 'fatherland' - aside from the fact that the whole department should never have been created; all that would have been necessary is for different law enforcement agencies to pick up the phone and talk to each other - y'know: communicate about investigating the same criminals).  I don't go see war movies; I don't like blow-up, bombing, etc., special effects - they take up time without making a point.

    I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

    by NonnyO on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 07:50:49 AM PST

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    •  I really meant it as a stand-in (5+ / 0-)

      for all the crime-based TV shows that are on these days, e.g. L&O in all its variations, NCIS, CSI, etc. Someone once joked that if L&O were based on reality, nearly everyone in NY would be dead by now.

      I don't at all dispute the need to acknowledge and address the very serious problem of violent crime in the US, or war and conflict abroad, through art among other ways. E.g. The Deer Hunter, The Killing Fields, etc. But not gratuitously, titillatingly and exploitatively. That's just creepy, and wrong.

      I don't mind James Bond-like fantasy movies that involve obviously ridiculous forms of violence, though, that are rarely depicted graphically. Perhaps this makes me an in-denial hypocrite who can compartmentalize. Don't know.

      "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

      by kovie on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 07:59:09 AM PST

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      •  Or, maybe, like me... (3+ / 0-)
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        ... you grew up in a non-violent household..., and violence is just a huge turnoff for any reason.  I know "it's only acting," but it's still repugnant.  I don't like violent movies or TV shows, and the American penchant for gratuitous violence in both TV and movies.  I even wondered about Stieg Larsson's trilogy, but I ordered the extended Swedish version of the movies with subtitles, each DVD is three hours (movie versions were half that), and while there are episodes of violence, the director of the movies kept it as short as the books and didn't dwell on the scenes like American movie-makers do (when I've made the mistake of watching a show I didn't expect to be violent - the scenes just seem to go on for-bloody-ever).  The Swedish director more alluded to the violence than dwelt on the graphic crap an American director would.

        The real reason why CSI, Bones, etc., appeal to me is the forensic science behind the stories.  That part fascinates me.  If I were young and starting out again, I think I would go for being a forensic scientist either in law enforcement or a forensic anthropologist.  There's a series in Britain now that I catch on YouTube where the forensic anthropologists solve puzzles involving bones hundreds of years old, some all the way back to the Roman occupation.  If that sort of thing interests you, search for "BBC - History Cold Case" and at least eight shows should pop up.  (That part of the title is all in caps on the YouTube pages, and the rest of the title is in regular-sized fonts.)  The forensics for the study of bog bodies is also fascinating.  My interest in forensics has, of recent years, additionally developed because of my genealogy research, but that takes too long to explain here.

        I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

        by NonnyO on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:02:00 AM PST

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        •  I can understand and respect the fascination (1+ / 0-)
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          with forensic medicine, but unfortunately there's a situation in my own own life that could potentially involve it (and already has, actually) that I can't get into, that makes this of more than intellectual interest for me.

          "Liberty without virtue would be no blessing to us" - Benjamin Rush, 1777

          by kovie on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 09:11:31 AM PST

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