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  •  Sounds like classic misdirection to me (0+ / 0-)

    Congress doesn't care for the torture part since it's patently illegal from a war crimes standpoint. Only way to deflect criticism is to claim it's not true. Kathlyn Bigelow is a pretty intense researcher. She got uncommon access to the Navy Seal Team 6. Why should I doubt her telling?

    •  Bingo (1+ / 0-)
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      Clearly one explanation.

      The other is that those in the know who correctly oppose torture know that some information gained from it helped find Bin Laden - that isn't hard to believe. And it isn't hard to believe that those who oppose it fear that what they think of as stupid, uneducatable Americans will get the wrong message from the movie.

      I prefer the truth, and have no reason to believe the Senators over Bigelow and Boal.

      Here's what is frightening - US studios make few films on hot button issues. They'd rather make pablum and non-controversial ones. The way progressives are railing against a film that, for me, is a strong presentation of the evils and lack of efficacy of torture is heinous - it will make heads of productions recoil from doing so in the future.

      Movies are narrative art - like fiction, like plays, like other movies. This isn't a documentary. It lacks a character coming out and saying "torture is a crime, let's all act guilty and ashamed." That would make it bad narrative art.

      ZD30 is the best American film at least since The Social Network. Even if I didn't take the message from it I do, I'd still admire its mastery and skill. But a bunch of people who clearly didn't understand the movie or purposely misrepresent it or who think the public is stupid are smearing it, incredibly unfairly.

      Don't fall for it. Don't believe me. Don't believe them. See it for yourself.

      •  A film could certainly have depicted (0+ / 0-)

        the lead female CIA character mugging and clowning for the camera during a brutal torture.

        And then later, higher-up CIA officials, panicked, destroying the video evidence of this, in a cover-up.

        No character would have to overtly say:

        torture is a crime, let's all act guilty and ashamed.
        It's just that events, taken from the known facts, would show this.

        This would be a different political spin on events. It would be a different character portrayal. The CIA character probably wouldn't come across as professional or sympathetic.

        A film showing a CIA officer mugging and clowning during the torture, a film showing the CIA intentionally destroying evidence of the torture: I doubt the CIA would have provided any assistance to such a thing.

        •  This is not a film (2+ / 0-)
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          that makes the CIA look good.

          Having seen the movie, unlike the multitudes here who have recommended this diary without having the same experience, I can say that with a degree of confidence that isn't what the movie conveys.

          It is a sad movie. It emphasizes the moral cost.

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