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    •  A poison pill...for something that you just told (5+ / 0-)

      us the other side wanted?

      So the WH house inserted something to kill a bill that they explicitly said the other side demanded...

      yup...sounds about right for this negotiation team...and the people that try to spin their ineptitude...

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      by justmy2 on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 01:41:43 PM PST

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    •  He poisoned the bill by including something you (3+ / 0-)

      claim the Republicans were demanding?

      "Furthermore, if you think this would be the very very last cut ever if we let it happen, you are a very confused little rabbit." cai

      by JesseCW on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 02:15:32 PM PST

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    •  You're confused. Think about it. n/t (1+ / 0-)
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    •  IF your premise that the GOP didn't (2+ / 0-)
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      really want the chained CPI provision on Social Security (and that's a big if), then Boehner has successfully embarrassed the President by convincing him to go out on that limb.

      The beauty of the secret squirrel, behind-closed-doors meetings for the Republicans is that they can privately make demands and then deny that they did so - which is why many people watching - well, some smart people watching - thought that it wasn't a very good idea for the President to agree to those meetings.

      Anyway, aside from being more than extremely annoyed and disappointed with the President for ever including the chained CPI offer in any deal, now you are telling me that I should consider the possibility that he is in effect also a sucker, on top of it all.

      Not sure you're doing the President or the White House any good with your argument.  You're not helping, as they say...

      Just sayin'

    •  POTUS took "chained CPI for SS" & made it omnibus (0+ / 0-)

      I think Ned is accurately understanding what the Whitehouse was saying.  Reading the transcript it looks like the POTUS said "OK, you want Chained CPI for SS? I will do it but only in the form of I give you Chained CPI for EVERYTHING."  Hence the poison pill.  It is kind of a subtle F*ck You.  One of those wonky positions that is hard to explain to the general public in a sound bite but has big implications.  Was playing with fire though since the soundbite is what the public took from it, e.g., it is just about Chained CPI for SS.  The risk was that the repubes could have passed a clean bill and asked why the POTUS was lying.  Didn't happen though.  Was just to damn muddy.  Media isn't sophisticated enough to explain it.  Even we are fighting w/ one another trying to decipher it.  If no one here but Ned was able to even identify WTF the Whitehouse was TRYING to say, lord help us all if that was actually supposed to be a political winner from BHO.

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      by ten canvassers on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 04:51:15 PM PST

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