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  •  ?!? (8+ / 0-)

    If the house just said no to the million dollar threshold, and totally ignored Obama's SS offerings, what makes you think they'll lap up something closer to the million dollar threshhold from Obama plus a Medicare bon bon--- IF he were to offer it.

    I'm surprised at you Jed. You cover this every day, and you still don't understand that it's the GOP that is going to go over the cliff in this country. They are determine to do so, and they don't give a shit about the consequences.

    IMO, like with the debt ceiling negotiations of 2011, or the GOP primaries, where every single candidate said they would not accept a 10 to 1 spending cut/revenue deal, these guys and gals are much crazier than you give them credit for.

    "A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues." Theodore Roosevelt.

    by StellaRay on Thu Dec 20, 2012 at 06:50:44 PM PST

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    •  Stella, you are so right. (4+ / 0-)
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      manyamile, StellaRay, Baldur, kefauver

      I am only surprised by the people on this site who fail to see what should be painfully, clearly obvious:

      ..it's the GOP that is going to go over the cliff in this country. They are determine to do so, and they don't give a shit about the consequences.

      There will NEVER be a deal with these loons.  This is the same party who had members during the debt ceiling fiasco actively trying to whip votes against raising the debt ceiling.

      Ever since that moment, it was clear to me that the GOP was officially on the dark side and rooting against America.  The only thing they hate worse than raising taxes is giving any kind of perceived "victory" to President Obama.  The GOP establishment rode the Tea Party wave to a House majority and now it is time to pay the piper.

      My prediction is that the Democrats' petition to bring the tax cut bill for those earning less than $250K will now be allowed to come to a vote.  I believe it will pass.  This is what President Obama was asking for from the beginning.

      •  I wish that were true, but I don't belive it. (1+ / 0-)
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        JesseCW

        There's very little time for the discharge petition to come to a vote.  I heard one Democrat on T.V. say that after the discharge petition gets 218 votes, they have to wait a week before the bill is brought to a vote.  And once the session is over, the bill would have to go through the Senate again.

        As far as I know, not one Republican has signed it.  Representative Cole is a big talker, but I don't think he's signed it.  He just wants to have it both ways.  He wants his constituents back home to think he's for keeping their taxes from going up, while making sure the Tea Party knows he'd never do anything to cross them.  

    •  They want what they want, and if they don't get it (1+ / 0-)
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      apimomfan2

      they'll tank the whole country.  Why can't we get Republican voters to pressure their own elected Representatives?

      •  There was a massive calling campaign prior to (0+ / 0-)

        the Plan B vote...opposing it's passage because "it's a spending problem, not a revenue problem".

        It worked.

        Nothing short of extending all the tax cuts AND spending cuts will pass the House.

        Only good option is over the curb for more leverage next year.

        •  I'm talking about the Republicans that aren't out (0+ / 0-)

          on the far right.  There are all these polls that show that a lot of Republicans agree with the Democrats on these tax and entitlement issues.  Yet, they never put pressure on their own Representatives.

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