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  •  Im frustrated. (27+ / 0-)

    The House of Representatives is NOT going to let any gun control legislation pass. NONE. So when Republican after Republican comes out in favor of sane gun control, they know full well nothing will pass. And by knowing this, it gives them cover so as to appear sane. So they can go out and talk about sane laws because they know they won't pass. It is all lip service.

    The NY Post recently came out criticizing the NRA and calling them nuts. But they also know that this is just lip service. NOTHING will get passed. Congress will postpone and postpone and by April America will have forgotten. Or at least enough of America will have forgotten.

    And by the 2014 midterm elections America will have so forgotten that they'll send numerous tea partiers and pro gun nuts back to Washington yet again.

    Call me a cynic.

    •  Reality is not cynicism. (7+ / 0-)

      You seem to have good cognitive powers.

      Denial is a disease.



      Folks, they are "war rations."
      Can we all refer to food stamps by their proper name?

      by Pluto on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 06:22:01 PM PST

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    •  not cynical, you have it about right. Having our (6+ / 0-)

      political conversations shifted so far to the  right edge means nothing gets done, ever. As Ronald Reagan opnly statedt, the goal was and is to bring the federal government to such a state of financial destitution and ideological gridlock that it can do nothing.  The revolution already happened, the NRA was a vital part of overthrowing our government and replacing it with a psudo-fascist state.  That they themselves don't understand this shows just how narrow minded and stupid they are.

    •  States can however. (2+ / 0-)
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      You have exactly 10 seconds to change that look of disgusting pity into one of enormous respect!

      by Cartoon Peril on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 06:29:26 PM PST

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    •  Prius: You ARE a cynic. True, many things conspire (9+ / 0-)

      ... to defeat good causes. Time and lack of media attention, to name a few.

      But the NRA is a paper tiger. Their paper is, in part, currency, to be sure, but if enough Congressmen and Senators stand up to be counted in favor of meaningful gun legislation, it will be much harder for the NRA to target them all. (Right now, the proponents are like the ducks in a carnival; they keep coming one by one and can be picked off accordingly.) And the NRA is doing what the GOP did in the run up to the 2012 election: they are being themselves and preaching to their crowd and sounding even more extreme and unrealistic as they do it ... and thereby making unforced errors so basic to their nature that they don't even realize how they sound to others.

      It's up to us to keep this pot boiling. If we don't, we deserve the Nothing the nation will get down the road on the most dangerous legally approved weapons.

      2014 IS COMING. Build up the Senate. Win back the House : 17 seats. Plus!

      by TRPChicago on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 06:35:49 PM PST

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    •  Most sensible comment on this topic anywhere (1+ / 0-)
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      On the other hand, if it does pass, we will have a repeat of 1994.  President Clinton could comment on that one.

      We can have change for the better.

      by phillies on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 06:45:54 PM PST

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    •  It's almost funny. (1+ / 0-)
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      Surely someone at the NRA knows that no gun legislation will pass the House. And knowing that, they still sent LaPierre out there to rant. They could've simply issued some vague statement about their possible support for common sense legislation, but they went full crazy. It boggles the mind.

      •  well, what he said (1+ / 0-)
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        would have been counterproductive if his goal was to rally support from wavering Republicans.  But it was pitch-on for keeping the extremists whipped to a frenzy.  So I think that, alone, tells us all we need to know about what the NRA is thinking.

        States' rights? Corporate rights? Militia rights? Government rights? Hell no! Only individuals have rights. Proud lifelong human supremacist.

        by happymisanthropy on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 09:03:03 PM PST

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