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  •  did you read Shanikka? (0+ / 0-)

    http://www.dailykos.com/...

    Everyone's perspective is subjective, and if you are personally connected of course you feel it more.

    But the overall reaction of the media and the masses is always indifference to those other stories.

    Perhaps we should feel shame over that.

    Especially when it comes to the absolute silencing of the anti-war movement the last 4 years.

    But I expect that in any discussion about race, white people to be angry with me and claim "they aren't like that" and redirect the conversation to guns, or anything but the fact that we are indeed imprisoning and killing epic amounts of people of color both in this country and the world over.

    ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

    by Diane Gee on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 08:39:40 AM PST

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    •  Yes, I did read it (0+ / 0-)

      and it was very moving, and infuriating. In researching my diary I have read hundreds of articles about children gunned down while sitting on their porches, or sleeping in their beds, or simply walking down the street. Violent crime is rising, especially in urban areas, and the majority of those victims are young, black, and killed by guns-not in the hands of cops, but in the hands of other young black men. Not because they are more violent, but because we have stigmatized and dehumanized them so much (as Shanikka's diary so eloquently points out) that they feel like they have no place in society, other than in the streets. And because the surge in gun sales over the past few years has resulted in a surge on the street market as well. And for many other reasons I am not afraid at all to talk about race, or police brutality. But you look at this statistically, 100 or so killed by cops (and many of those deaths were "suicide by cop" according to my research) pales in comparison to the close to 20,000 people who are killed by guns in the U.S. every year-the majority of them civilian homicides, and disproportionately people of color. We are on track to have gun deaths exceed traffic fatalities by 2015. 17,000 people were killed by guns in 2008, and this year is on track to be one of the deadliest on record. I'm not trying to redirect the conversation-I'm trying to focus it.

      You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

      by SwedishJewfish on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:21:18 AM PST

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      •  But to me, the redirect is there. (0+ / 0-)

        You are trying to address the guns, not the endemic class war and racism that drives crime.

        In Rwanda, an entire genocide happened by machete.

        There are thousands of gun debate threads.

        I am trying to have a discussion about hate, race, double standards and give voice to the overlooked.

        That said, I'll read your essay when you post it, it should be an interesting piece on gun control.

        ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

        by Diane Gee on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:36:02 AM PST

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        •  But I'm not (0+ / 0-)

          Like I said, we have young black men who are so disenfranchised-by economic inequality, racism, lack of opportunity, in addition to growing up surrounded by unbelievable amounts of violence, similar to what you would experience in an actual war zone. Then we flood the streets with guns-which, thanks to the gun lobby are not only more available but more lethal than ever. I read one article about the upsurge of homicides in Chicago that said while the number of shootings are only slightly up, the number of fatalities is surging-and that is the direct result of the increased number of assault weapons, high caliber ammunition, and large capacity magazines.

          In other words, I don't think the two issues are separate-I think they go hand in hand.

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          by SwedishJewfish on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:47:43 AM PST

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          •  what you think (0+ / 0-)

            should be essayed. Not forced as the topic on my essay.

            My essay is about RACISM.

            Systemic RACISM. racism by the STATE.

            And the white people who give it a silent and complicit pass.

            Take the gun debate elsewhere PLEASE!!!!!  Please?

            Thank you.

            ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

            by Diane Gee on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:55:27 AM PST

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            •  Young black men getting massacred (0+ / 0-)

              and our collective apathy to it is the highest form of racism. In my humble opinion.

              But no problem, I will leave your diary if that's not something you find suitable for discussion here.

              You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

              by SwedishJewfish on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 10:01:21 AM PST

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      •  PS (0+ / 0-)

        and last word on this off-topic hijack?

        The fact people embrace the term "suicide by cop" thus blaming the VICTIM not the reactionary pigs says volumes about our military state mindset. You sneezed! You must have wanted to die! You didn't bow, scrape and obey your massah, you must be suicidal!

        Its fucking bullshit, man.

        ..the smoker you drink, the player you get....

        by Diane Gee on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 09:58:53 AM PST

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        •  I'm talking about people (0+ / 0-)

          who murder their spouses or sometimes their entire families including children, and then when the police show up point the gun at them because they are too cowardly to pull the trigger on themselves. They are not VICTIMS. And incidentally, for the record, most of them are white.

          You must work-we must all work-to make a world that is worthy of its children -Pablo Casals Please support TREE Climbers for victims of child sexual abuse and exploitation.

          by SwedishJewfish on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 10:04:48 AM PST

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