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  •  I believe the Old Testament expression... (7+ / 0-)

    was An Eye For an Eye, A Tooth For a Tooth...but no more.

    As in, that is the MOST one should muster for a response:  NOT the suggested or required response, but the MAXIMUM response.

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    by Floyd Blue on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 11:51:09 AM PST

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    •  I didn't even bother to google it... (1+ / 0-)
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      I took my daddy's word for it.  He used to tell me that.  That's why I stated, "I believe it is..."

      I don't often verify my dad's stuff.  He was the smartest man I ever knew, and I am proud that I think my daughter thinks that (usually) about me.

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      by Floyd Blue on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 12:15:39 PM PST

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    •  That's certainly so in the Talmud (1+ / 0-)
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      A part of what a "just" society isn't so much about punishment or deterrence; it's about limiting the human desire for vengence.  And for allowing for mercy that vengence doesn't allow.

      Both traditional Jewish and Muslim systems of justice allow for a great deal more moderation, mercy and sanity than the "Christian" endorsed ststems in many US states.

      Quote of the week: "They call themselves bipartisan because they're able to buy members of both parties," (R. Eskow, Campaign for America's Future.)

      by mbayrob on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 03:41:26 PM PST

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    •  Your daddy told you right (5+ / 0-)

      "An eye for an eye" was the Old Testament law's response to the unfettered human revenge impulse. In the Bible, that was represented by "the cry of Lamech" in Gen. 4:24:
      "I kill a man for wounding me, a young man for a blow. Cain may be avenged seven times, but Lamech seventy times seven."

      The formula appears in both Exodus and Leviticus, where it is permitted and not commanded. The interesting one is in Deuteronomy 19: When someone commits perjury, then the punishment is actually required: whatever judgment he tried to have inflicted on the defendant must be inflicted on him, "showing no mercy" - an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth, a life for a life.  Now, wouldn't that be a fit way to cut down on the common police practice of testilying?

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