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    though I did not understand the wings of the party very well until the past 15 or so years.  But even the moderate Dems who we ran would not have touched Social Security, excepting Clinton.  That's another thing I was not aware of until more recently. I had no idea how much damage he had done until the 2000s.  

    In the tweets that I posted in today's WH diary, there is series by Jeremy Scahill.  He talks about diplomatic security.  He wrote that book on Blackwater, so he knows a lot about private security and Blackwater, etc.  He said that the whole privatization of diplomatic security (and probably more uses than that because he mentions Halliburton) was started under Clinton.  I always thought that was a Bush thing.  

    Which book was it, Naomi Klein? Jane Mayer?  It revealed that we were torturing during the Clinton years too.  When the Arab Spring started and after Mubarak stepped down, Suleiman stepped into his place briefly.  That's when a lot of information about Suleiman was coming out.   They called him the CIA's man in Egypt for rendition and torture.  So I was in the dark about that too.  I am pretty sure that if that was happening, Clinton would have to have been aware of it, or ordering it or at least approving it.

    In exchange, we willfully paid little or no heed to the Egyptian dictatorship's abuse of human rights, despite its role in radicalizing such terrorists as Ayman al-Zawahiri, Osama bin Laden's operational and strategic commander. In fact, our strategy of rendition in the wake of 9/11 -- sending terror suspects to other countries for interrogation -- took advantage of Egypt's torture cells. As Jane Mayer writes in her book, The Dark Side, and on The New Yorker magazine's "News Desk" blog, Omar Suleiman, Egypt's new vice president and the former head of the country's general intelligence service, was "the CIA's point man in Egypt for renditions." Former US Ambassador to Egypt Edward S. Walker, Jr., described Suleiman as "very bright, very realistic" and "not squeamish."

    One of those whose rendition Suleiman helped oversee was Al Qaeda suspect Ibn Sheik al-Libi, who told the CIA, according to a bipartisan report from the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, that he was locked in a tiny cage for more than three days, then beaten because, at the behest of the United States, the Egyptians wanted him to say that Saddam Hussein was going to give Al Qaeda chemical and biological weapons. "They were killing me," he told journalists Michael Isikoff and David Corn. "I had to tell them something," and so his coerced confession wound up in Colin Powell's now notorious address before the United Nations in February 2003, justifying war against Iraq.

    Yeah, so the more I know, the more I realize how much I don't know.

    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:44:36 PM PST

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