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  •  That approach turned me off too. (1+ / 0-)
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    Dumbo

    If you're not uncomfortable, you're doing it wrong? No dice.

    The choice is between fossil fuel and a sweater, not fossil fuel and misery.

    into the blue again, after the money's gone

    by Prof Haley on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 11:47:26 PM PST

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    •  All I can say is I'm wearing 3 layers (1+ / 0-)
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      Dumbo

      and I'm still freezing my ass off!  ;)

    •  How about fossil fuel versus home improvement? (1+ / 0-)
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      Prof Haley

      Home improvement sounds fun and positive.  Learning to live with less and to be uncomfortable... not as positive.

      I'm often dismayed when I join in on environmental discussions when the puritan mindset (I hate to label it, but it needs some kind of label) rears its head.  It's not wrong -- it just reflects a different kind of cultural and class upbringing than I was raised with.  There are a number of people that dominate in environmental movements who adhere to some broader although perhaps unspoken-to-themselves moral philosophy that sees comfort as a form of moral laxity.  It's not just this discussion.  It's very frequent.  And when it happens, I find myself left out.

      Yet I'm scared shitless by Global Warming.  To me, it seems wasteful and indulgent to waste time trying to philosophically makeover people's moral constitutions.  That some people can't even RECOGNIZE that this is what they are trying to do makes me feel even more left out, like the bridges of communication that make unity possible are blocked.

      I just don't get it.  I have to imagine that it's some kind of old Protestant cultural thing that emerges in this new form and people don't even realize they're doing it

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