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  •  Not only is the idea a nonstarter because of the (4+ / 0-)
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    thejeff, wasatch, mkor7, mamamedusa

    cost.  But realistically these guards are going to have to be in full battle field body armor with helmets all the time.  Otherwise, once they become routine the shooter will simply wait them out, hunt them out and take them out with the first salvo.

    Before this ever comes into being, and in some places it basically has, there need to be some pretty specific laws, and rules of conduct as to how any police or a private guard is to behave toward students who are not armed but might be casing a disturbance, fighting, stealing, suspected of doing drugs, kicking the guard in the shins etc.

    How are the boundaries of their authority to be defined?  Who is their boss?  How and when would they respond to or ignore requests for help, in non shooting events, from teachers, students, parents?

    If the guard becomes the decider guy and all adult staff and admin are effectively his subordinates, the students will realize that and some will take advantage.

    •  another TSA only worse (3+ / 0-)
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      happymisanthropy, wasatch, Karl Rover

      Assuming we actually did put guards in every school, I mean how often do these things occur?  As gun crazy as our country is, most guards will never have to deal with this.  They will just sit there every day bored out of their skulls waiting for something that's never going to happen.  More than likely, if it did, they would not be ready for it.

      sTiVo's rule: Just because YOU "wouldn't put it past 'em" doesn't prove that THEY did it.

      by stivo on Fri Dec 21, 2012 at 07:12:15 PM PST

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    •  Huh? (0+ / 0-)

      Do you really think that is how rampage shooters operate?

      If schools are known to be better defended rampage shooters will choose softer targets. Though, I am not sure there is any softer target than an American public elementary school.

      Schools at least need a single shotgun locked in the office with principals and vice principals trained to use it. The staff and teachers will die to protect their charges. Why not give them the tools to do it.

      America is a violent country and that will not change in the near future. Gun-Safety Kabuki like an assault-weapon-ban will not make elementary school any safer.

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