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  •  That's an Important Distinction (1+ / 0-)
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    And one I'd agree with: the vehicles are safer (maybe even safe), but the drivers are not.

    I'd even guess that the safety of the vehicles is one reason that drivers are also, in my opinion, worse: the vehicle feels so safe that people feel like there's not that much that can happen to them.

    •  I see it a lot (1+ / 0-)
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      from drivers of large SUVs and pickup trucks.

      There's something about those vehicles that makes the drivers feel invulnerable.

      If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

      by Major Kong on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 05:32:11 AM PST

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      •  That something would be (3+ / 0-)
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        the size of the vehicle. If someone rear-ends me in my pickup, there's a lot of distance between their car and my body. If they hit the side, I'm up higher than the point of impact. And of course, I'm protected by air bags and my seat belt from frontal impacts.

        In an accident, bigger is better. How many semi drivers die in wrecks?

        "A lie is not the other side of a story; it's just a lie."

        by happy camper on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 07:22:16 AM PST

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        •  A lot actually (0+ / 0-)

          Semi drivers get killed quite frequently.
          The cabs are fairly lightweight because weight = fuel burn = $$$

          Also the high CG of your pickup greatly increases your chances of a rollover.

          I'll stick with my A8 that was designed to survive crashes at autobahn speeds.

          I can rent a truck the one day out of the year I need to move a piece of furniture.

          If the pilot's good, see, I mean if he's reeeally sharp, he can barrel that baby in so low... oh you oughta see it sometime. It's a sight. A big plane like a '52... varrrooom! Its jet exhaust... frying chickens in the barnyard!

          by Major Kong on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 07:48:19 AM PST

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          •  And deaths of people who drive semis (1+ / 0-)
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            Have a lot to do with the poor education of drivers of regular motor vehicles (especially about traveling distance) and with the legal structures that punish the drivers rather than the companies that dispatch them, even when the drivers are given willfully unrealistic driving times, forcing them into speeding, sleep deprivation, etc.

            It's a system crying out for reform.

      •  Marketing for SUVs tends to... (1+ / 0-)
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        ...place an empasis on the ability of occupants of these vehicles to survive an accident.  The implicit message is that in an accident, it's the people in the other car that will die, not you.

        Not suprisingly, this marketing seems to attract a lot of assholes.

        Ironically, it's also not especially accurate.  In multi-vehicle accidents, the occupants of large SUVs and trucks do have an advantage due to mass.  But in single vehicle accidents, the safety of these large vehicles is almost certainly worse than that of standard cars.  Why?  Higher center of gravity means that tip-over accidents are more likely.  And safety regulations for trucks are not as rigorous as for cars.

        Political Compass: -6.75, -3.08

        by TexasTom on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 08:06:48 AM PST

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