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  •  Very logical. (7+ / 0-)

    Proving that you still don't understand these people. They do not wish to follow logic, and have steadfastly decided against logic many times in their lives. So they're not going to fall for this. They want to live in their illogical fantasy world, and all this logic is the work of the devil to them (as is carbon dating).

    •  I think I meant people who *happen* to believe (3+ / 0-)
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      in Genesis because of culture - not people who are personally fanatical.

      In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

      by Troubadour on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 05:22:43 PM PST

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      •  Do You Know Such People? (5+ / 0-)

        Biblical creation is just that, it's a teaching of a religion, in fact fanatical religion. Non-fanatical religion doesn't teach it, non-fanatical schools don't teach it. The opposite is taught in non-fanatical schools beginning I think at the elementary level, certainly by middle school.

        I don't see that there's a cultural path to biblical creation other than fanatical religion.

        We are called to speak for the weak, for the voiceless, for victims of our nation and for those it calls enemy.... --ML King "Beyond Vietnam"

        by Gooserock on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 05:37:18 PM PST

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        •  I've met tons of such people. (3+ / 0-)
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          Folks are dumb.  Most people's understanding of human origins - at least in this country - are an incoherent stew of the Bible, New Age gibberish, and X-Files episodes.  Those who grew up in devoutly religious households may just assume the Bible is reality without putting any particular thought into it.

          In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

          by Troubadour on Sun Dec 23, 2012 at 06:02:39 PM PST

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        •  Either you're using "fanatical" atypically (1+ / 0-)
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          or you don't understand how widely people vary in their internalization of, and interpretation of, Biblical teachings.

          Short form: that isn't remotely true.

    •  Mandela won by removing people's fears (1+ / 0-)
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      If you read what these people have to say with an empathetic but analytical eye, the apparent explanation is that they're afraid of being in a moral void.

      In their eyes, unless we're the special creation of a lawgiving God, there's no basis for any morality. If we're "just" evolved assemblies of matter, they don't understand why we'd be bound by any more ethical code than a toaster has.

      This explains apparently bizarre statements like blaming school shootings on the teaching of evolution.

      That's the root of it, and if you try to use reason against a gut moral reaction, you might as well try to stop a freight train by barking at it.

      •  But this does remove people's fears. (0+ / 0-)

        It shows them that not only can they still have faith and accept reason, but that they already do it constantly in their daily lives.

        In Roviet Union, money spends YOU.

        by Troubadour on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 08:52:58 AM PST

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