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  •  So should we (8+ / 0-)

    also pay everyone in Tornado Alley to move away from there? Maybe move everyone out of California and every other earthquake prone area?

    We should probably abandon South Florida and evacuate Hawaii too, since a Tsunami could wipe them both out at any time.

    While we're at it, I think any place that suffers from any sort of extended drought should be on the short list, too.

    I hope Montana and the Dakotas have plenty of room, 'cause we're on our way.

    •  We need to adapt to Climate Change. (1+ / 0-)
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      Perhaps these relocations would be considered as a part of that adaption.
      This needs to be considered.

      •  Qo the Battery Tunnel is NOT on the coastline (4+ / 0-)

        and yet it totally filled up with saltwater anyway....  so did the NY subway system and the Jersey path trains....  there were sections of NYC that are NOT in flood zones that got upwards of 5 feet of saltwater...  same on the jersey side,  so in order to do what you suggest we would have to empty out a significant section of lower manhattan... much of south brooklyn and vast areas of Jersey and totally abandon Staten Island and the Rockaways, for starters.  

        while it is easy to say 'dont rebuild where it floods'  one needs to actually look where it flooded and realize that it is impossible to not rebuild most of what got destroyed.

        if you want to check it out start with NYU Medical center and Coney Island Hospital which is technical NOT in Coney island and far from the coastline.   it was a shock that these two institutions flooded..NO ONE ever expected the ocean water to come that far inland!!   ..if Coney Island hospital is not rebuilt and reopened over a million NYers will have no easy access to a hospital

        "You've got to be an optimist to be a Democrat, and a humorist to stay one" - Will Rogers

        by KnotIookin on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 10:40:36 AM PST

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      •  Thousands of people were flooded out in (0+ / 0-)

        places miles from the ocean. In places that were never flooded before. I hope your redneck paradise never suffers a natural disaster, maybe then we won't help you.

        Where are all the jobs, Boehner?

        by Dirtandiron on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 05:02:52 PM PST

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    •  There is a significant difference between the two (3+ / 0-)
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      elwior, qofdisks, CA wildwoman

      The given probability of a piece of property in Tornado Alley being hit is small and the area damaged is limited in scope.  The probability that property on the shoreline of the Atlantic or Gulf coast being destroyed at some point over a 100 year period is approaches 100% and thanks to global warming, the period between these events is getting shorter and shorter.  The devastation is complete and widespread. There are plenty of places in NY, NJ, NC, FL, GA, AL, LA and Texas to live without being right on the shore where the storm surge occurs.  If you choose to live there then in the future you should bear the cost, either through higher, unsubsidized  insurance premiums or self-insurance.  Same goes for living in the flood zone of a river or at the base of a dormant volcano. That said, for those who currently live in these places, help should be provided either in the form of relocation or rebuilding, although if they choose the latter they should understand that it won't happen again in the future when the inevitable storm wipes them out again.

      The difficulty lies not so much in developing new ideas as in escaping from old ones! - John Maynard Keynes

      by Do Something on Mon Dec 24, 2012 at 02:36:22 PM PST

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