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  •  I gotta say, (8+ / 0-)

    I don't think Tarentino has made a good movie in ages.  Mostly, I just see his work as appealing to his audience's sadism.  But I suppose it's a kind of progress that he can make a living helping people live out their sadistic fantasies by justifying them with vague connections to progressive causes...

    "If you can't lower heaven, raise hell!" - Mother Jones

    by al ajnabee on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 08:12:58 AM PST

    •  He's not my favorite filmmaker either (3+ / 0-)
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      BlueDragon, al ajnabee, Nulwee

      See my comment above. And excellent sarcasm on your part. I can just see your face as you say "I suppose." Well played.

    •  Same here (6+ / 0-)

      it's been one disappointment after another since Pulp Fiction.  Notably, Roger Avary quit cowriting Tarantino's movies after that...hmmmmm

      Jackie Brown wasn't bad, but it needed better editing.  Kill Bill was boring, lots of stilted dialog.  Since then all Tarantino seems to think about is violent revenge, which I just don't find very interesting.  

      His movies are certainly beautiful, though.  Some of the best cinematography ever.  And his scenes linger, very effective in this age of fast MTV edits.

      "When I was an alien, cultures weren't opinions" ~ Kurt Cobain, Territorial Pissings

      by Subterranean on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 08:26:51 AM PST

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      •  I did like Jackie Brown a lot. (1+ / 0-)
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        ColoTim

        Never saw Kill Bill all the way through.

      •  Was it Planet terror? (2+ / 0-)
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        Ian Reifowitz, ColoTim

        Simply an awful film...and trying to make it look like a scratchy drive in print from the 60's was stupid. I could watch scratchy drive in double features as a kid, for real, and they really sucked. The fun then was being with friends not watching the awful movies, be it The Land that Time Forgot or Attack of the Killer Tomatoes.

        •  I heard his Grindhouse movies were really long (2+ / 0-)
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          in that to watch both Planet Terror and Death Proof took nearly four hours, and if you weren't into those kinds of movies when they were in vogue during the 1970's, you would be seriously turned off by his homage to those said movies.  However, some of the reviews for the pair of movies noted that the best part of those movies were the faux trailers for the fake horror movies in between.

          Having said that, the fun of the whole grindhouse genre besides the copious amounts of violence and/or sex (it was the 1970's after all) was the fact that most of these movies either were shown at dumpy movie houses just as the mall cinema multiplexes began to proliferate in presence or at the drive-in theaters.  It was okay for a lot of people to see these at the drive-in, since many of the moviegoers were not necessarily focused on the movie onscreen, if you know what I mean. As a kid, I saw probably too many bad (and mostly inappropriate) drive-in movies, most of which were cheap horror movies, but I also saw the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Invasion of the Bee Girls.  

          •  well i saw Frogs and The Conqueror Worm (0+ / 0-)

            and most of the Harryhausen movies, which the critcs hated. Frogs, Willard. Ssss. There was a new low budget cerper every week. Valley of the Gwangi. ( actually based on a Willis O brien script ) Sinbad in the Arctic with a Troglodyte and a giant walrus. Krull. And don't forget the Japanese movies! Kong Kong vs Godszilla, Frankenstein ( i think he may have taken on Godzilla at some point ) Gamera, Mothra, and the best of all War of the Gargantuas. Which I think had Russ tamblyn in it... they used to have a few token washed up Americans like Nick Adams in those films.  Who could forget Destroy All Monsters? Come to think of it, maybe the movies were better back then; they were cheap, made cheap, and expectations were low. Not two hours and 40 minutes like the Hobbit, which put me to sleep a record three times, a feat even George Clooney couldn't manage during the American despite  my being on heavy painkillers!

        •  Planet Terror was by Robert Rodriguez (0+ / 0-)

          who's a good friend of Tarantino's.  It was bundled with Death Proof, which was Quentin's contribution.

          Quote of the week: "They call themselves bipartisan because they're able to buy members of both parties," (R. Eskow, Campaign for America's Future.)

          by mbayrob on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 10:47:30 PM PST

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    •  he's one of the most overhyped directors out there (7+ / 0-)

      imho. my partner is African American, and based on the trailers he's seen and reviews he's read, he has absolutely no interest in seeing this movie. Tarantino's in-your-face racist language and images and excessive violence is not something he's not interested in seeing. He deals with enough of that in real life, is how he looks at it.

    •  I never liked him BUT I could watch (4+ / 0-)

      Chris Waltz's performance in Inglorious Basterds over and over again. And Pitt was good also. I'd see a film just for Chris Waltz, really. He"s that good.

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