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  •  Meh. Leone never impressed me. (1+ / 0-)
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    Maybe that's why I don't like Tarantino or Rodriguez. I hold that Ennio Morricone is the best part of GBU, and I watch it for that alone. And Once Upon A Time in America, his 84 gangster flick, is bad. In fact, 84 was known for some of the worst movies of the era. And that era included turkeys like Out of Africa and Tootsie ( with respect to the late Charles Durning, who deserved an Oscar for Dog Day ) I'm old enough to remember when Bronson and Eastwood had a rivalry, to see who could star in the schlockiest films. But hey,that's just my taste. I remember a Spanish professor talking about this awful film he saw, about Conquistadors in the Amazon which was historically inaccurate and was in German, for chrissakes! He said it was the worst movie he ever saw. years later I would see it and be blown away. It was Herzog's Aguirre, the Wrath of God, one of the greatest artistic achievements in all cinema. By the way, my favorite Italian film? Umberto D. if you can watch that movie and not cry at the end.....

    •  I'm sure you know that (4+ / 0-)

      Once Upon A Time in the West, like Aguirre, is considered one of the greatest films of all time by many critics, film publications, and film sites (98% rating on Rotten Tomatoes, 8.7 on IMDB). Oh well, Leone's not for everyone. Bernardo Bertolucci actually came up with the story after he and Leone did painstaking research on the history of the genre. In many ways the film is a response and counterpoint to those conventions in its depiction of the American West.

      I never liked you and I always will.

      by Ray Blake on Tue Dec 25, 2012 at 03:29:34 PM PST

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      •  Heh, i don't care for Bertolucci either:) (0+ / 0-)

        Fellini, Visconte, Antonioni.... I was blown away by Death in Venice, Satyricon, and Blow Up; to be honest I never sat through all of Once Upon a Time in the West. But i'll give it another look. I'm not actually a big scholar of cinema, but I had the fortune of working at an ad agency with a guy who collected all this stuff back in the 80's, so he'd loan me all these VHS tapes. I remember Death in Venice shared a tape with Moon in the Gutter with Depardieu. Another had Danton and i think 1900 ? with Deniro and Depardeiu, which was a Bertolucci film and was terrible. That year The Last Emperor came out and was hailed as a masterpiece, and it was very good and won all sorts of awards, but in the end I thought Empire of the Sun, which came out the same time with a child actor named Christian Bale, was much better. No one much talks about the Last Emperor anymore. I just remember seeing it with this guy from the ad agnecy and he was incensed at the ending of Last Emperor because the grasshopper was still alive ( if you've seen it you get the reference ). i just shrugged and said I like history and i thought the movie was good.

        •  Bertolucci's best film is still The Conformist (0+ / 0-)

          Last Tango, Luna and The Last Emperor were other faves of mine. He's been dicey since then. Stealing Beauty, Sheltering Sky, The Dreamers are all so-so, which I think accounts for the fact that he's not talked about much anymore. Antonioni is very much in favor now, of course he's dead. That always helps. Blow Up is classic and The Passenger stands out. I've been going back to Fellini lately. His films hold up too.

          I never liked you and I always will.

          by Ray Blake on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 11:43:23 AM PST

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