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  •  Looks like (9+ / 0-)

    they are going to try to cut a smaller deal before New Year's and then come back and do bigger cuts sometime over the next couple of months when the other kinds of hostage taking happens.  

    I don't see how they get this smaller deal done without giving up things.  Unemployment and the debt ceiling are there to be used for fiscal terrorism.

    The news about how no deal will be made, how we're going over the cliff -- there is a lot of dissonance between that and Wall Street and even corporations like Starbucks being used to coerce a deal.

    I tend to think all the talk about how no deal will be made, by progressives saying we'll go over the cliff, is bluster so that no big protests will happen outside the White House.


    "Justice is a commodity"

    by joanneleon on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 05:54:50 AM PST

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    •  That's their MO. If people are watching closely, (7+ / 0-)

      just delay the vote for a month or two and sneak the betrayal thru when no one is looking. Sooo predictable.

      I was really looking forward to forced cuts to the Death Industrial Complex. It's the only way that will ever happen.

      "It is the world that has been pulled over your eyes to blind you from the truth." - Morpheus

      by CitizenOfEarth on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 06:23:14 AM PST

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      •  Chip away (6+ / 0-)

        and in the meantime, condition people to the fact that it is coming and scare the hell out of them.  

        And blame it all on the Republicans, who will gladly play their part.

        But in the meantime they have changed the national conversation back to the debt/deficit fetish.  A year of election obsession, now months of deficit and austerity fetish.  

        So the question is, is there anyone out there who can change the conversation back to income inequality, climate change, imperialism, and the root problems?  

        This saturation of the media with election and deficit is like nothing I have ever seen before in my life.  We've reached some kind of propaganda tipping point.

        And yet, 80% of the country still says don't touch Social Security.


        "Justice is a commodity"

        by joanneleon on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 07:31:02 AM PST

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    •  Over the cliff, off the cliff, under the cliff.... (8+ / 0-)

      beside the cliff, down the cliff, up the cliff, and then around the cliff.

      Good morning from chilly Florida, and hoping joanne, you find warmer weather and more sunshine when you go on your holiday.

      "There's one born every minute."

      The Haggle continues.......

      "Who are these men who really run this land? And why do they run it with such a thoughtless hand?" David Crosby

      by allenjo on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 07:10:59 AM PST

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      •  Heh (6+ / 0-)

        It's amazing the lengths they are going to, allenjo.

        And look at all the enablers here at dkos -- nah, no big deal to cut Social Security.  I hope this isn't a sign of what's coming with the younger generations and that they have not been thoroughly brainwashed.  I don't think so.  I don't think the people here who are defending the austerity destructive policies are necessarily they younger members.  I think it is mostly the loyal hyperpartisans and the people who are living very comfortably right now and perhaps think they are invincible.   But the 1% assholes are doing their best to drive a wedge between generations.


        "Justice is a commodity"

        by joanneleon on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 07:34:41 AM PST

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    •  Hi - had a question - (4+ / 0-)

      What's the "Watch This Space" graphic box in your diary?  Is there a new blog being formed or is that this community within dkos?  Either way, it is sorely needed.  Dkos has totally lost its power as a progressive force since that "progressive" got elected.

      Send your old shoes to the new George W. Bush library.

      by maxschell on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:08:47 AM PST

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      •  Yes (3+ / 0-)
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        a new community news/blog.  We planned to launch before the election but then ran into some problems, switched developers and decided to get up to speed and do some of the development work ourselves, which will be better in the long run.  Plus, there was just wall to wall propaganda and election obsession up through November anyway.  At that point it made sense to wait until after the election.  It is a nonpartisan site, focused on issues and movements.  And some other things that we'll talk about when we launch after the holidays.  We're on a break right now and will be starting to work with our developers in Brooklyn again next week.  So "watch this space" :)  The next update to the "watch this space" message should have some specifics about dates for when we make the beta site public.  It will be a soft launch. When we're confident after having some more traffic on it, we'll do an official launch.  


        "Justice is a commodity"

        by joanneleon on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:35:53 AM PST

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        •  That.is.awesome! (1+ / 0-)
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          And sorely needed.  Please count me in :) as a supporter and include me if there are any updates.

          I feel like with this Jackson EPA resignation there is real clarity about what progressives need to do (this is a short list but there are more items):

          1. Stop cuts in Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security, yes, and also push for an expanded social safety net for our aging population;

          2. Stop the Keystone XL pipeline,yes, but also push for greater climate control regulations including awareness of original Keystone pipeline;

          3. Stop the crazy NRA plan for more guns everywhere, yes, but also stop the government's plan for more drones and domestic surveillance.

          That's a platform already and I know there about another 101 items.  

          Send your old shoes to the new George W. Bush library.

          by maxschell on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 10:02:02 PM PST

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