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  •  That's been my prediction for weeks (23+ / 0-)

    Boehner won't make a deal because Boehner can't make a deal -- nothing the Senate or White House would accept will make it through this House.  I doubt he could find enough Republican votes to push through a small bill with the Democrats on board.  He's not the only House Republican scared of their crayzees.

    After the New Year things will get a lot more interesting.  My hope is that the president will demand things like unemployment extensions, Sandy relief and the like in the middle-class tax hike bill:  that'll need to be repassed in the Senate anyway.  Spending cuts should be a separate question.  Hopefully Democrats can leverage needed support for the poor and needy by refusing to increase Defense cuts without proportional rises in domestic social spending and infrastructure jobs programs.  Further tax hikes should also come into the mix.

    Citizens United defeated by citizens, united.

    by Dallasdoc on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 07:06:54 AM PST

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    •  The debt ceiling thingy awaits in the background.. (8+ / 0-)

      AGAIN!! long before Mericians tire of this nonsense?....Hey!.....GOP......You lost!!....get over it.

    •  I expect a deal either by 12/31 or in1st week (9+ / 0-)

      of January.  I expect that deal to be a s**t sandwich that has a lot of condiments on it to make it go down easier.  In particular, I expect the sandwich to feature chained CPI and/or other entitlement changes that will be widely despised by most Kossacks.

      Wall Street has been speaking for weeks.  It is shouting now.  It has wanted "entitlement" cuts for years, and it will, almost inevitably, get them now.

      Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

      by RFK Lives on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 07:29:53 AM PST

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      •  Please be wrong! (5+ / 0-)
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        Yeah, your prediction sounds about right to me.  Sigh.

      •  only if we let it happen (6+ / 0-)

        Chained cpi can be made to go away if we demand in exchange 100% of all income be made subject to ss and medicare taxes.

        Its not much fun to screw others over if you end up with a bigger screwing in return.

        The other change that would get them to stfu is to demand a financial transation tax.

        We have got to start pushing for alternatives that are more painful to them. If we keep letting the villagers sell entitlement reform without financial system reform we end up with a fecal material sandwich for the bottom 98% of the economy.

        The long game of the randistas has been to reduce ss benefits to pay for their obscenely low tax rates. We do not need to look at ss for cuts if we eliminate the earnings cap.

        •  Wall Street told DC to jump, and DC asked how high (2+ / 0-)
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          It's not complicated.  Sadly, while it's a truly bipartisan effort, one party is, when push comes to shove, more willing to bend to the Street's dictates, and said party isn't the one that we universally despise here.

          Chinese credit agencies and the TBTI (too big to indict) financial institutions told the president it was time to come home, and he obeyed their dictates.  He's not going to do so and come away empty-handed this time.  What Big Finance wants, Big Finance will get.  

          It's only a matter of time.

          Some men see things as they are and ask why. I dream of things that never were and ask why not?

          by RFK Lives on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 08:21:38 AM PST

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        •  "we" don't get a vote. (1+ / 0-)
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          I'm not saying that we should stop screaming about this.  We should scream louder. But it's been pretty clear that Obama and the corporate Dems want austerity, and this is how they get it, by letting themselves be forced into the deal that they want anyway, and blaming the republicans for it.

      •  I also fully expect both the SS and Medicare (0+ / 0-)

        ages to be raised to 70 if not 75.  Oh, and for Medicaid to be abolished, except possibly for seniors going into nursing homes.

        You have watched Faux News, now lose 2d10 SAN.

        by Throw The Bums Out on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 08:01:00 AM PST

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      •  Maybe "most Kossacks" will "despise," but that (5+ / 0-)
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        same set will likely buy the notion that "it was the best that our hero could have done."

        Comfort ye, my people, in that idiot phrase that anaesthetizes so many of us to the increasingly gluttonous removal of our vital organs and life blood, that "politics is the art of the possible." Makes us all sound so wise, and in-the-loop, and at-the-table. Nope, what you folks refer to as "politics" is really just the sham we buy as "representative democracy." And mastering the lingo and parsing the polls is not the same as actually having any chance of a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.

        How many of us progressives actually feel like we are much more than "javelin-catchers" in the Imperial Olympics?

        "Is that all there is?" Peggy Lee.

        by jm214 on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 08:14:54 AM PST

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    •  while we are at it (5+ / 0-)

      We should push congress tocut student loan interest to 1%. That would in efffect make all student loan debt interst free andprovide a real middle class stimulus.

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