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  •  I don't have a problem with this (1+ / 0-)
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    Batya the Toon

    I can respect people who act differently out of conscience, in ways that don't harm anyone else, and especially when doing so means forfeiting a substantial chunk of income rather than making money off one's "principled" stance.

    I don't happen to agree with the gentleman on same-sex marriage. But since he feels strongly about it, this seems like a reasonable step for him to take.

    Would it be better if he said, "Well, it's flat-out wrong, but what the heck, since it's happening, why fight it, & I may as well make a buck from it anyway"?

    •  No. (20+ / 0-)

      When you operate a business that provides a public accommodation you don't get to discriminate based on your religious "conscience." It's that simple. If you can't operate your business in a manner that treats ALL Americans with respect and dignity then you don't deserve to be in business at all.

      What if he suddenly decided his religion conscience excludes serving Muslims or Jews or blacks or Asians or people who speak with a Southern accent? Does he allow divorced people to ride his trolleys? What about adulterers or thieves or liars or those who lust and covet? What if his religion teaches that rugby is the work of Satan and anyone who participates in the devil's sport in any way shouldn't be allowed on his trolley? Where do you draw the line on such outlandish and outrageous and pathetically inconsistent "religious conscience" nonsense?

      You draw the line at the top and put an end to this bullshit before it gets a chance to catch on and become acceptable.


      Not this mind and not this heart, I won't rot • Mumford & Sons

      by jayden on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 01:23:46 PM PST

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    •  I can't respect bigots. (14+ / 0-)

      Period.

      Would you also respect a person who went out of business rather than have to serve African Americans out of "principle"?

      Homosexuality is found in over 450 species. Homophobia is found in only one. Which one seems unnatural now?

      by Chrislove on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 01:34:53 PM PST

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    •  So you're okay with voluntary white separatists? (11+ / 0-)

      You know, armed compounds in Idaho and the like? They feel strongly about racial purity. Can't deny their "principles."  It's out of "conscience" that they oppose the government for race-mixing and not keeping blacks in their place.

      You sure you want to go there?

    •  He operates his business on public streets paid (10+ / 0-)

      for by taxpayer funding.  

      Sure, he's free to not operate trolley weddings because he doesn't want to have to take same sex wedding business on his trollies.  But he also indicates that he doesn't want to have to accommodate any gay people at all.  

      It seems to me that if he's making money by using public streets, he should be expected to comply with state law.  The guy says he wants an exemption for "conscience" and religious objection; wants to be able to run a public business on public streets, but discriminate actively against the public.  I DON'T support that AT ALL and you shouldn't either.

      That's one more thing to add to my long list of small problems. --my son, age 10

      by concernedamerican on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 01:56:12 PM PST

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    •  Yes, it would have been better to make a buck. (5+ / 0-)

      Take.

      The.

      Money.

      Unless you're hurting someone, or stealing, or otherwise doing some harm - take. the. money.

      Let's say you run a trolley service, and you book a wedding party, and they're, I don't know, really big supporters of Bashar al-Assad.  The happy couple wants to carry a portrait of Bashar al-Assad in the trolley, maybe belt out some pro-al-Assad marching songs, while you drive them down the street.

      So what?  You drive the trolley, right?  You take the money.

      You're not supposed to like everything you do at work.  That's why they have to pay you to do it.  That's how it works.  I can't relate to this guy at all.

      Art is the handmaid of human good.

      by joe from Lowell on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 09:06:03 PM PST

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