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  •  Not to dispute your main point (1+ / 0-)
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    Which I agree with (well-known problem to the point of unhealthy comfort, if you will) I'm not sure I follow your reasoning about "scaling".

    To scale the rate of black children murdered and apply it to white, a greater absolute number of white children would be killed.

    To scale a "Sandy Hook" incident to the black population, a smaller absolute number of black children (per incident) would be killed.

    Correct?

    So for us to see a Sandy Hook scale incident in the black community, you would factor the rate to the population.

    And in such case (where fewer absolute victims are required to achieve the same rate) it's quite possible there are already quite a few Sandy Hooks in the black community that are being ignored.

    Which is far worse.

    You would have to hunt out examples to validate that, but I find it a credible scenario.

    Lastly, the only new point I'd like to add to the discussion is that the solution is color blind: Ban the weapons and take them back as quickly as possible because access leads to tragedy.

    What about my Daughter's future?

    by koNko on Wed Dec 26, 2012 at 08:41:40 PM PST

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    •  You should differentiate (1+ / 0-)
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      different types of gun violence to make a more effective comparison with your point -- to the extent that is possible.

      Rampage killings by social isolates are very different in cause, effect and demographics than suicide and other more prevalent forms of criminal injuries and homicides involving firearms.

      The principle of scaling has limited utility if these critical distinctions are ignored.

      The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

      by ancblu on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 04:15:07 PM PST

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      •  I agree. (2+ / 0-)
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        But my comment above is in response to the diarist who is making these comparisons with what I consider to be a logical flaw that actually works against his argument.

        Regardless, the diarist has a valid point about the demographics of gun violence and how it is treated by the MSM and society at large. To paraphrase an expert on mass-murder - Joseph Stalin - an isolated cluster of 26 deaths is a national tragedy but a million everyday shooting deaths is a statistic.

        I'm glad Mr. Obama keeps noting both because they have a common root cause - access to deadly weapons.

        What about my Daughter's future?

        by koNko on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:15:26 PM PST

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      •  basically my point, which you judge harshly (1+ / 0-)
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        elsewhere and got kind of personal

        I think you responded to my comment in isolation not as part of a conversation

        •  I apologize if I misunderstood (1+ / 0-)
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          your point and perspective in its context.  I did agree with another reply that raised a similar concern suggested by your language.  This subject matter -- gun control and white privilege is a minefield fraught with visceral emotion.

          The one permanent emotion of the inferior man is fear - fear of the unknown, the complex, the inexplicable. What he wants above everything else is safety. H.L. Mencken

          by ancblu on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 01:42:41 PM PST

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