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  •  YES. I was talking to a friend about this (20+ / 0-)

    the other day: at what age does a black male child become a "young black male" "menace to society"?

    My friend said, 13. Me, I guesstimated the age to be about 8.

    My neighbor's 16 year old grandson was recently shot to death. Yes, he was involved in a drug deal. Heaven fucking forbid.

    So he was involved in a drug deal.

    I suppose the statute of limitations has run out on this, so I am free to admit (anonymously) that the way I personally funded my undergraduate education was by selling weed.

    Yes. Because I didn't have any mommy and daddy to pay for it, or even "help out."

    Did I commit a crime? Yep. I did. I had no choice. It was just weed (this was before the Reagan administration infiltrated the hood with guns and crack cocaine).

    So, as a young adult I sold weed because it was the best option I had for getting through college (please note: in the first semesters, I worked 4-part time jobs--my grades sucked because I didn't have time to work 4 part time jobs AND focus on school).

    When people immediately point to the fact that a lot of the gun deaths in the inner city involve drugs, what they're saying is that anyone who is selling drugs deserves to be shot and killed.

    So even if some of the black-on-black crime involves drug sales and/or other relatively minor, non-violent crimes...holy shit, what are we saying? That if some young kid resorts to selling drugs because that's the only option he sees, then he shouldn't be surprised if he ends up dead as a result?

    Seems to me that's the (ill)-logic behind it.

    •  you raise a valid point (14+ / 0-)

      for many children, dealing is normal and it pays, and trying to stay in school and work inside the system doesn't.  And being children with the inherent sense of it can't happen to me,  they don't emotionally identify with the risk of gangs, drug dealing, guns, etc. Plus many innocent bystanders die, too, so what's the difference becomes the attitude.

      The answer is not just taking away the guns but finding meaningful ways to offer real alternatives to dealing and gangs and gunfights. Because kids don't deserve to die just because they don't have choices that are more appealing.

      On the other hand, we do have to deal with the fact that we (as a society) are destroying these children in some very important ways at very young ages.   Deprivation of security, nurturing, even in the womb, etc. because of  poverty changes people and generally not in good ways.  Dickens wrote of it in a Christmas Carol,  race has nothing to do with it.   But we ignore it in this country because of race, all too often.  

    •  thank you (4+ / 0-)

      I live in New Orleans, and 'safety' is a joke. But I rarely feel endangered, even though I live in the 'scary' part of town.  
      Americans refuse to have a sense of proportion about 'danger.'

      Most of our lives are so safe, we barely see it.  Try raising a family in Cairo, or in the mid-East where US drones rain death from the sky without warning.

      And we see nothing wrong in slaughtering other people's children.  
      Sick puppies,we are.

      The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers. - The Communist Manifesto

      by nolagrl on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 10:24:26 AM PST

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      •  a point made, and often shouted-down (0+ / 0-)

        Most of our lives are so safe, we barely see it.  

        I've paraphrased a bit here:
        Try raising a family in Cairo.
        Or in the mid-East where US drones rain death from the sky without warning.

        And we see nothing wrong in slaughtering other people's children.  

        Excellent observations.

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