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  •  Sorry, but living on a fixed income (5+ / 0-)

    from Social Security and VA compensation, there's no way I, or millions of seniors like me, could survive the instant inflation nearly doubling the minimum wage would bring.

    Phase it in over a long enough enough time frame for COLAs, chained or not, to keep up and I'm in your corner. Without that it's my ox you're goring, not the employers who must pass the increase along.

    Guns don't kill people. People kill people. Monkeys kill people too, if they have guns.

    by DaNang65 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 04:57:29 AM PST

    •  That's only if the CEOs continue to make (5+ / 0-)

      400 times as much per hour as the average worker.
      And asking for more than you know is possible is a good place to start bargaining anyway.

    •  Don't worry. (1+ / 0-)
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      misslegalbeagle

      The House is not going to pass a min wage increase, certainly not such a big one.

    •  I hope you are not suggesting... (8+ / 0-)

      ...the low wage workers continue to tolerate the social ills that a low wage economy generates. People living on fixed incomes also live in the communities being blighted by low wages. Besides, who says fixed incomes have to stay fixed? Social Security and VA benefits are pegged far too low considering that defined benefit pensions are going the way of the passenger pigeon.

      Yes, it will take a massive social reform movement the likes of which we haven't seen in decades. But let's get started. There's no time to waste.

      "Don't believe everything you think."

      by BobboSphere on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 05:53:06 AM PST

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    •  There is no need for that kind of thinking because (2+ / 0-)
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      Mentatmark, historys mysteries

      the real truth is that costs will not increase with the wages unless the greedy Corporate Masters insist on it.....How about speaking up about that.  I too live on SS and am all for a increase into a living wage....

      •  This is pure B.S. fantasy (4+ / 0-)
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        VClib, ffour, 1918, Nulwee

        Costs of running a business DO unavoidably increase with wages, unless you've found some magic loophole in fundamental economics that no one else has thus far discovered.  The valid, realistic issue is: for the given type of enterprise in question, what percentage component of cost does labor (and labor of any particular type) represent?  The labor cost factor can be very different across different types of businesses, a relatively high percentage where service is a dominant component (e.g. restaurants), a lower percentage where mechanized production is a relatively more dominant component of both production and costs.

        Yes, the greed of corporate masters is an issue, e.g. vulture capitalists loading companies up with debt, siphoning off assets, in particular raiding cash assets which should by contract be allocated to employee pensions, etc.  Nevertheless, the issue of the ways and extent to which upper-management and vulture capitalists exploitatively abuse workers isn't at all the exclusive key economic factor involved; inescpabably, in even the most progressively, socially enlightened business model, enterprises still must make fundamental economic sense: the ability to sustainably bring in more revenue than costs of doing business.  Cost of labor is a nontrivial proportion of those costs for most businesses.

    •  Those of us living on fixed incomes (4+ / 0-)

      ARE ALREADY paying the price for low-wage workers. We pay for it when we subsidize low wage workers who qualify for food stamps, Medicaid, day care for their children, and sadly, for crimes stemming from economic desperation. We also pay when we give tax cuts to their employers who pocketed the excess profits that should have gone to workers in their paychecks.

      “Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit.” -- Ronald Reagan, 1984 debate with Walter Mondale

      by RJDixon74135 on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:05:50 AM PST

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    •  Oh okay. (1+ / 0-)
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      MKinTN

      We take out $20-$60 K in college debt because your generation presided over the 'you need a college degree to be an administrative assistant' phenomenon, we keep social security solvent which Gen X was unable to do (due to its smaller size) but don't give us any sort of means to make up for 10 lost years, decades of student loan payments, and a delayed ability to pay into our retirements.

      And I mean that literally. I'm 10 years behind where I was told I was supposed to be, and I have one of the more impressive resumes for somebody I know my age who was not born wealthy or with any connections.

      Thank you to jayden, Dr Erich Bloodaxe RN, Aji and everyone in the Daily Kos community involved in gifting my subscription and gifting others!

      by Nulwee on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:25:36 AM PST

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