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  •  Yeah, a sudden bump to $15 would (5+ / 0-)

    really kill many small business, restaurants, etc. These truly small businesses do not have 7-figure CEOs. And while an increase in the taxes they pay on their profits might not drive many (if any) out of business (which Republicans claim), an increase in their (pre-tax) expenses would wipe out all marginally surviving businesses that rely significantly on low-cost labor. It does NOT further the aims of progressives to actually cause more harm than good, so before any such increase actually happened, I'd hope we all got smarter on what people like Bob Greenstein and other liberal think tanks thought the ideal minimize wage hike is (that increases wages substantially as possible without costing too many jobs).

    •  The application of a living minimum wage should be (0+ / 0-)

      combined with both a reduced work week and subsidies for (actual) small businesses. I'd be okay with the federal government helping small businesses keep their workers until those businesses adjust to the new economic model.

      We should also start doing 20-30K grants, not loans, from the federal government to kickstart some new startups. Some of those businesses are going to fail, but the purchases they make will do a lot to stimulate aggregate demand.

      We also have a problem with presenteeism and an excessively long work week that can be addressed in combination with these wages.

      An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

      by OllieGarkey on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 07:23:59 AM PST

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      •  Where is this 20-30k sustainably coming from? (2+ / 0-)
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        So every new restaurant in America gets a 20-30k grant from the federal government, the tax revenue for which to support it comes from...????  This is the sort of magical thinking is one of the relatively few places conservatives do have a valid point about.  Government has to carefully pick its spots for stimulus or subsidies, or else they become counterproductive drags and distortions (the military-industrial complex being a prime example of sustaining high-wage employment at a deeply counterproductive cost).

        BTW: a "reduced work week" is exactly the tactic many restaurant chains (and WalMart) are using to reduce costs, and they're being heavily criticized by progressives for doing so.

        •  No, the 20-30K grant is for new startups. (0+ / 0-)

          It's based on a german stimulus program.

          You don't give it to everyone, you give it to industries where you need growth. There'd be an application process demandinng that the applicant take some business management classes at a local college, and then the applicant would have to submit a business plan.

          An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

          by OllieGarkey on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 07:40:30 AM PST

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        •  Also, a reduced work week is only acceptable if (0+ / 0-)

          we redefine full time/part time, while increasing wages to the point that the reduced work week doesn't hurt the workers.

          An Fhirinn an aghaidh an t'Saoghail. (The truth against the world.) Is treasa tuath na tighearna. (The common people are mightier than the lords.)

          by OllieGarkey on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:04:52 AM PST

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    •  WOCC is targeting the big chains (0+ / 0-)

      WOCC wants to negotiate with the big chains, not put small mom and pop places out of business.

      "Don't believe everything you think."

      by BobboSphere on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 08:09:25 AM PST

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    •  NO LAW is sudden. This is a complete myth. (0+ / 0-)

      Obamacare is being implemented relatively fast and it still is taking years.

      Any sort of wage increase that dramatic (rightfully dramatic) would in all likelihood be scaled in tiers, which is what nations have done before!

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      by Nulwee on Thu Dec 27, 2012 at 09:27:56 AM PST

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