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  •  This Is Just My Take (3+ / 0-)
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    CIndyCasella, Pinto Pony, Vetwife

    folks get outraged by stupid stuff. I've read Hagels comments and I wasn' that offended by them (but I will  note I am a straight dude). I am totally sure you can find something I've said here far worse.

    This is a rant of mine. Why would anybody want to run for public office or serve said office when they know they will be savaged? We are pushing out the smart people. We'll get second rate people.

    I don't want my nation run that way ....

    When opportunity calls pick up the phone and give it directions to your house.

    by webranding on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 10:36:27 AM PST

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    •  He didn't make a stray statement. He (5+ / 0-)

      orchestrated a mob attack on a nomination.  And solely because of his sexual orientation.  That is just plain wrong.  And it is not the kind of mindset we need at the Pentagon right now.

    •  Hagel gets a few points in my book (2+ / 0-)
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      Vetwife, CIndyCasella

      because the 'angry, old white dude' McCain doesn't like him. Do we remember president Obama wouldn't  take a stand on LGBT rights until his hand was forced by the Veep? Most people 'evolve' over time and I am sure we all have regrets. If we don't then we have learned nothing. If you don't think so I will check back with you in 10 years. I can remember not so many years ago when I thought the 'angry, old white dude' McCain was a moderate maverick. Not so much now, in fact not at all.

      'It isn’t fair: the caterpillar does all the work, and the butterfly gets all the glory.' - George Carlin

      by FloridaRedneck on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 02:46:45 PM PST

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      •  That's a bit of revisionist history (0+ / 0-)

        Obama certainly had a stance in favor of gay rights -- before personally endorsing marriage equality, he supported ENDA, DADT repeal, defended state-level decisions to adopt marriage equality, and refused to defend parts of DOMA in court (where he felt precedent allowed such a step).  It's also unclear whether Biden "forced" anyone's hand, or that Obama would have done it anyway.  Cheney proved a VP can be more pro-gay rights than the President, after all.

        Difficult, difficult, lemon difficult.

        by Loge on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 04:57:02 PM PST

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    •  My sentiment exactly (2+ / 0-)
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      emidesu, CIndyCasella

      look people.  We are one nation whether the republicans think so or not.  I deal with republican, conservative, fundies, right wingers, liberals, greenies, aethists, etc every day of the week in the Vet area of advocacy.  Does it matter ....really about how a person parted their hair 14 years ago and who now maybe knows how to style his hair fine?

      Secretary of Defense should know about the trauma of war.  Hagel knows that.  My opinion.

      We the People have to make a difference and the Change.....Just do it ! Be part of helping us build a veteran community online. United Veterans of America

      by Vetwife on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 04:09:44 PM PST

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