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  •  Jesus doesn't actually (11+ / 0-)

    "forbid public prayer".  He says don't be like those who pray in public in order to bring attention to themselves and look better than other people.  

    If you pray to make yourself look good, you are violating one of the 10 Commandments, because you are taking God's name in vain: you're using God for your own selfish reasons.

    If you pray with love and humility, thinking of God and not yourself, then it doesn't matter where you pray.   Jesus prayed in public on several occasions.

    •  Jesus specifically says prayer should be private. (0+ / 0-)

      It doesn't matter if your public prayer is genuine or a performance, Jesus specifically says do not do it.

      "But when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your Father who is unseen. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you."
      If you're in public and you still want to pray, do it silently. We learn to read silently at an early age, there is no excuse for praying outloud. Besides, if God is omnicient, then he knows what one is going to pray before oneself does and thus again there is no reason for anyone to pray outloud: God doesn't actually need to hear you speak, thus your public prayer is for whatever benefit you think you'll gain by having other people hear you pray.
      •  This is literalist thinking (0+ / 0-)

        Jesus wasn't against rites where we pray together for something (like rain or forgiveness).  He was simply saying your conversations with him are different and that those who pray for public approval are doing wrong.  I believe your approach is the "literal is everything" approach.

        •  My approach is reading the fucking words. (0+ / 0-)

          Knowing a tree by its fruit is a metaphor, pray "in secret" means do it privately, aka not a metaphor. The only people who have a problem with Jesus's instructions to pray privately are those who want to do it for others to see them doing it.

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