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  •  This is not the point at all (1+ / 0-)
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    Just because you can know an outcome doesn't mean you control the people involved.  

    If I show a tea partier a racist cartoon about Pres Obama, I absolutely know he/she will laugh.  If I show the same cartoon to a progressive, the progressive will not laugh.  

    Does that mean the racist does not have free will?  

    •  If one is omnipotent... (0+ / 0-)

      ...then not acting is acting. Just because God is trying to pass responsibility off on someone else doesn't mean he's not responsible if indeed he's ominipotent.

    •  If you stab someone in the heart, what they think (1+ / 0-)
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      is irrelevant.  They have no free will in the situation, they just die.

      Same thing for the racist and the cartoon.  If you train your mind to immediately react to stimuli a predictable manner, you are removing your free will.  So yes, the racist in this situation lacks free-will because he can be made to laugh on-command given a picture.  What do you think the whole point of racism is?  It is to replace free-will with knee-jerk reaction and create a mindless following.

      Predestination sits well with people like this because they already lack will-power in many situations.  Thanks for the example :)

      To any wingnut: If you pay my taxes I'll give you a job.

      by ban48 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 12:06:05 PM PST

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