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  •  not so much (12+ / 0-)
    We are simply going to ban military weaponry,  eliminate some huge ammo clips, and register every single gun owner, and make them go through a psychological evaluation....  No big deal . It's just getting a license to drive your car.
    there is no constitutional amendment declaring that the right to drive a car shall not be infringed.

    psych evals for gun ownership?  just as soon as they're imposed on every single police officer/military enlistee.

    and who would pay for said psych eval?  would gun purchasers be able to visit a shrink of their own choosing, or would it be an ATF-approved doctor only?

    you can absolutely forget about registering every gun owner.  no way is that going to fly.  how the very idea isn't utterly appalling to every liberal on earth eludes me mightily.    

    Please don't dominate the rap, Jack, if you got nothin' new to say - Grateful Dead

    by Cedwyn on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 07:33:58 AM PST

    •  Don't go at it that way (3+ / 0-)
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      RUNDOWN, Calamity Jean, nolagrl

      Fine gun dealers who sell large magazines, armor piercing bullets, semi automatic weapons.

      You can have them, if you can find anybody who will sell them. There's no constitutional right to sell weapons. Just to bear them.

      It wasn't illegal to DRINK alcohol, either. Just to SELL it.  

      •  Inventory problem (1+ / 0-)
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        Cedwyn

        That kind of law would only slightly reduce availability, though over a lifetime it would make more difference.

        •  whose lifetime? (0+ / 0-)

          The Kindergarten class at Sandy Hook?

          The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers. - The Communist Manifesto

          by nolagrl on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 07:09:14 PM PST

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      •  I'm sorry (1+ / 0-)
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        Samulayo

        I have a write to freedom of the press, and not a right to buy a printing press?

        That's silly.

        We can have change for the better.

        by phillies on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 12:22:43 PM PST

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      •  Prohibition is not a good argument.. (0+ / 0-)

        Since it failed. Better to focus on regulation that works; auto registration and drivers licenses work for the most part. And although cars are not constitutionally mentioned, guns are not either. "Arms" are mentioned, and we get to define what "arms" are.

        This is not very difficult to see. We, all of us, agree that Anti-Tank and Ant-Aircraft weapons are not protected "arms." Even our friends at Kos RKBA draw the line at "crew-served" weapons.

        It is NOT unreasonable to define arms which were crew served as recently as 1912... machine guns and semi-automatic weapons. Those are battlefield weapons and fall under the Well-regulated militia clause, to be stored in militia armories for emergencies.

        I really dont see what is so difficult about this.

        Figures don't lie, but liars do figure-Mark Twain

        by OregonOak on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 06:59:13 AM PST

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    •  Why it isn't appalling... (5+ / 0-)

      Right now, I could go to any of dozens of stores in the Minneapolis/St Paul metro area and quite legally buy a firearm. The level of paperwork associated with that will, of course, vary with the type of weapon I was buying but the fact remains that I could. I could also quite legally write a check to any number of private citizens in the same metro area who are looking to sell a weapon and acquire one that way.

      Now assume that the person who sold it to me is required to report that he or she did so and that the weapon is no longer in their possession and no longer under their control? Does that infringe my right to possess it? Not that I can see. How about if I am required to report that this weapon, serial # XXXXXX, is now in my possession and under my control? Nope, I still have a clear right to have it.

      Let's take it a little further.. let's go for some "personal responsibility" that certain folks are so enamored of. I have reported that, as is my right, I am now the owner of a firearm. How about if I am required to also have secure storage for that weapon and when outside that storage it must be in my personal control? Even take it so far as as to say that "what anyone else does with it is still legally my fault for allowing it into their hands in the first place" It's still my right to own it, but rights do come with responsibilities and I'm fine with that. What rational person wouldn't be?

      If it's stolen and I don't promptly report that then I'm carrying some measure of the responsibility if it's used in a crime too. Still my right to own a weapon, no infringement of the 2nd Amendment anywhere in this entire reply.

      Registration DOES NOT interfere with the right to keep and bear arms. Nor does reasonable requirements for responsibility on the part of weapon owners.

    •  There is no Constitutional mandate for VoterID... (2+ / 0-)
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      dewley notid, nolagrl

      but that didn't stop state legislatures from implementing some draconian measures to prevent citizens from voting. Also a Constitutional right. Never say never when our mandates on election are regularly ignored. Politicians do what politicians do without regard to your opinion or mine.

      •  and there is a (0+ / 0-)

        Constitutional right to abortion.  And every day, lawmakers across America stand up to propose laws to take away the Constitutional rights of women.

        The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honored and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage laborers. - The Communist Manifesto

        by nolagrl on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 07:12:09 PM PST

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