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  •  read your own words (6+ / 0-)

    the israeli supreme court ruled on behalf of an arab? does that sound like something the apartheid judiciary would have done?

    there are plenty of good reasons to criticize israel, but hyperbolic criticism makes it easier to dismiss the legitimate reasons.

    The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

    by Laurence Lewis on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:53:44 PM PST

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    •  I said there are ELEMENTS (1+ / 0-)
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      of the Israeli government. But, again, I can't argue with a person who is determined to dispute everything I write. Nor am I going to try.

      "Given the choice between a Republican and someone who acts like a Republican, people will vote for a real Republican every time." Harry Truman

      by MargaretPOA on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:52:20 PM PST

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      •  i wasn't aware (0+ / 0-)

        that i was disputing everything you write. "elements of" could apply to anything and anyone.

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:56:23 PM PST

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      •  There are equally nutty elements in every govt. (1+ / 0-)
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        In fact, it's arguable that both left and right in the U.S. lay claim to some pretty nutty politicians, at least the equivalent if not worse than the extremists in eretz Israel.  I make this judgment from the perspective of an old fellow with dual citizenship, who's observed the best and the worst in both nations for more years than I care to admit, lest the Kossites in charge lock me in the antiquities storeroom.

        Dhonig is absolutely correct in stating that Israel is not an apartheid state.  Arab citizens have unfettered suffrage, and full access to the courts for redress of infringements, as do all other minority citizens.  Can the same be said of the United States?  Not always, although the U.S. has greatly improved in that regard in my lifetime.  Israel's suffrage record for minorities certainly can't be matched by any other states in the Middle East.  Critics of Israel need to remember that it is a Jewish state, created by Jews for Jews, when no other nation on Earth wanted us, and even so, we have willingly extended full religious and political freedoms to our fellow citizens of varying religions and race.    

        Regarding Hagel, there are many honest objections to choosing him for the job, some of which were enumerated in the opening essay and following posts.  However, a secretary of defense's primary job is maintaining military readiness, and prosecuting the president's orders in war, and not chasing his own social issues agenda.  Any changes in social policies should come from the president and from Congress, and not from an appointee.  If Hagel is appointed, and if he follows the president's directions, then he will be doing as good a job as could any Democrat in the same position.    

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