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  •  And you're going to collect these...how? (7+ / 0-)

    They're not registered. There's no record that I own anything like that.

    Though I'd love to point out that if you ban things that hold more than 5 rounds, you're also banning revolvers...

    Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

    by KVoimakas on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 08:53:29 AM PST

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    •  I never said we are going to collect them (2+ / 0-)
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      Whether I like it or not, the Supreme Court ruled that gun ownership for protection is a Constitutional right. You can keep your guns KVoimakas.

      I said 'clips'. I know there are six shooters. I know there are rifles that can hold more that five rounds without a clip. All I am saying is that if you ban 60 round clips, lives will be saved. It is not going to cure all cancers, but if it saves one child, we have made a start.

      It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

      by se portland on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 09:04:58 AM PST

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      •  Collect the magazines. (4+ / 0-)

        How are you going to enforce a ban on 60 round magazines?

        Republicans cause more damage than guns ever will. Share Our Wealth

        by KVoimakas on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 09:22:32 AM PST

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        •  Sorry. I realized what you where (1+ / 0-)
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          saying even before you replied.

          You can't collect all the magazines. But you can outlaw the sale, transfer and use of them.  How many sawed off shotguns do you see lately, and that is technologically easy?

          Remember, that most of the mass shootings of late have been with legally bought guns. If even only some of the responsible gun owners comply with the law, the stock pile of these magazines declines. They are mechanical devices and fail over time.

          No one has still answered my concern that because we can't stop all mass shooting we should not even try to stop any.

          We can lockup all mentally impaired people we think MIGHT start shooting people, but I think that raises other Constitutional concerns, no?

          Really, what is this resistance to simple doable bans on high capacity magazines? Why are you going out of your way to defend them?  

          It is possible to read the history of this country as one long struggle to extend the liberties established in our Constitution to everyone in America. - Molly Ivins

          by se portland on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 09:42:30 AM PST

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        •  One way (3+ / 0-)

          would be to buy back and then move their possession into the same category as owning a machine gun. Without the proper license that is something like 10 years to possess, 10 years to fire, 10 years to buy, 10 years to sell. You don't see them used in crimes anymore.

          That said, I will not support a 5 round limit. There are revolvers out there with up to 8 rounds. There are many guns out there that sold with 10 round magazines. It is the most remembered number from the expired '94 AWB. Going from 10 rounds down to 8 rounds would effect many times as many magazines.

          I can support a 10 round limit. I own 2 firearms that came with 10 round magazines but can support larger magazines. I have declined to buy larger magazines for them. I have always felt that part of the '94 AWB was reasonable.  I know I will catch hell from some of the RKBA group for my position. I catch hell from the other side because of my dim view of attempts to ban so called assault weapons (whose definition.)

          A conservative is a man with two perfectly good legs who, however, has never learned how to walk forward. Franklin D. Roosevelt

          by notrouble on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 09:46:08 AM PST

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        •  Issue a recall. Make it manditory. (1+ / 0-)
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          How are you going to enforce a ban on 60 round magazines?
    •  Issue a recall. Make it manditory. (1+ / 0-)
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      And you're going to collect these...how?

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