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  •  If the Chained CPI is not really a backdoor way (9+ / 0-)

    for the GOP to cut entitlements then why is the GOP so insistent on including it in the Fiscal Cliff deal?

    “You must be the change you wish to see in the world.” --Gandhi:

    by smokey545 on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 01:27:33 PM PST

    •  Because, additionally... (0+ / 0-)

      ... it's a greased slippery slope to "donating" Social Security to "investment bankers" who will (for a hefty "fee") invest our retirement money at Casino Wall Street because the US government can't afford to pay back the loans they took out of the Soc Sec Trust fund to finance their illegal and unconstitutional wars..., and Casino Wall Street is where the House Rules for Gambling apply:  The House Always Wins:  Always!

      That means what WE lose, THEY gain (with interest)..., and ship OUR MONEY to offshore accounts in the Caymans or elsewhere.

      Can you say E-n-r-o-n...?

      Congress Critters and executives for de-regulated banks (Gee, Thanks a helluva lot, Bill Clinton for signing Gramm-Leach-Bliley!) think we've forgotten about Enron and the other companies that held/hold retirement or 401k funds - and others who still do and can't pay retirees because they are going bankrupt (except for the bonuses they pay executives).

      Not ALL Baby Boomers are senile, and we have longer memories than the arseholes in Congress.

      I'm sick of attempts to steer this nation from principles evolved in The Age of Reason to hallucinations derived from illiterate herdsmen. ~ Crashing Vor

      by NonnyO on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 03:56:34 PM PST

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    •  For Pete's Sake, Nancy Pelosi has endorsed this (0+ / 0-)

      cut--one of many Dems.  

      The crucial point is that it's being "put on the table."  I don't get the obsession with "who started it."  As one commenter pointed out, it originated in the most right-wing of think tanks YEARS AGO.

      Unfortunately, by and large, it's been adopted by both parties.

      A cut, is a cut, for "cryin' out loud."

      What difference will it make for seniors reduced to practically starving [as many will be IF ALL "3" Draconian Cuts recommended by the Bowles-Simpson Commission are passed into law] "who" put this idea on the table, and when."

      Let's get over the "look at the shiny object over here" distractions, please.  

      Everyone who votes for this cut should be punished.  IOW, "thrown out of office" when they stand for election again.

      And in the meantime, we have our hands full trying to "stop this."

      Please call WH, and your Senators and Congressmen.  NOW!

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