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  •  that's a lot of moss, looks so soft (9+ / 0-)

    too bad about the invasive English Ivy

    Hey! Where did the ads go???

    by PHScott on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 12:02:07 PM PST

    •  is it invasive over there? (8+ / 0-)

      I would have thought ivy is universal as is phragmites.

      Too bad! Knowing it you´ll never ever get rid of it again. OTOH, at least here, it is actually not so bad in its proper ecological niche. In flower it is an attraction for insects (dense swarms) and by that follow then birds, which also nest in it, as well as small mammals. So, thats at least some usefulness. And we have things here that are well able to fend off an ivy attack, such as ... ... and ... (I dont know the english words); although ivy is aggressive enough killing bushes and small trees.

      Do you have ilex as well? and ... Now I have to look it up: "honeysuckle" Ah hah, that´s a fitting name! You have it? Hedge of the house I grew up in was 1 bush ivy next to one bush of that, and I have seen them fight each other for thirty years and more, and it ended in total stalemate. Ivy doesnt win all its battles!

    •  in general (7+ / 0-)

      I don´t know what can be done about the great mixing of plant communities that we have caused. Yes one can go and pull things here and there, but I´m doubting that that can be done on a scale to have a significant effect. I know that every so-many years we get a call out here as well for yet another invader to eliminate on-sight but usually, the newcomers are at best delayed. We have heracleum mantegazzianum (sp) now (giant Baerenklau), there´s nothing that can be done about it. We have this very pretty winter flower, from South Africa, I keep forgetting names, it isnt evil, it simply is now here. It isnt just onland either, I heard the mediterranean submarine communities have been nearly completely replaced by water pest - which nothing can eat - and thereby killed. What can be done? We arent going to stop to be like we are, so we´re going to continue causing this. We´ll have to deal with what the plants make of it, not?

    •  Not all non-natives are invasive (8+ / 0-)

      If you read the pdf link on E. Ivy - it clearly is. The article is specifically about the Pacific NW. Down south here in Florida, we have worse. I spend most weekends in winter fighting them (coral ardisa, nandina, privet, climbing fern and even Oregon Grape). But it's always a good way to get out in the woods, get exercise, share time with others, and see different things while working.

      Hey! Where did the ads go???

      by PHScott on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 02:35:40 PM PST

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      •  Those damned invasives... (5+ / 0-)

        I was groovin' on the woodsy scenery until the English ivy showed up.  Suddenly my invade-o-meter began shouting, "danger, danger."  Sometimes I think it would be better if I knew less.  But then I might turn into a Republican, so let's keep things the way they are.

        And English ivy is invasive in the Northwest.  It was one of the plants we were told to document during the Fort Lewis (Tacoma area) forest inventory earlier this year.

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