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  •  Gah... Apple maps. (5+ / 0-)

    Thursday night, I tried to use it to find a faster way to my destination in San Francisco because my planned route was choked with traffic.  The map placed the destination two blocks east of where I knew it to be.

    Yesterday, went to pick up a friend early morning for a day of birding.  I'd never been to her home, and ended up getting there late because the damn map showed a right turn onto her street instead of the left turn that I actually needed to make.  For some reason, no one in that neighborhood has visible house numbers, so I went three blocks before I finally found an address and realized that I was off the mark.

    A first world problem, I know.  Not life-threatening in the city, but it means I won't trust it in a rural or remote area.

    •  It truly is monstrous. (3+ / 0-)
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      I hate it and wish I hadn't upgraded. I miss Google Maps. Much. I downloaded their new App, but it isn't the same.

      "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

      by Scott Wooledge on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 12:37:29 PM PST

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      •  Yeah, I wish the upgrade had come with a warning. (3+ / 0-)
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        Scott Wooledge, pgm 01, tb mare

        "Do this and you get our new shitty maps!"  Never woulda upgraded.  

        I had been ambivalent about getting a smart phone, but became a fan precisely because the maps were so useful and saved me from hours of sitting in traffic.

        •  I MOST appreciated Google Maps (3+ / 0-)
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          integrated easily with the NYC transit information, including bus and subway arrival times, which in my experience were almost always accurate within a few minutes.

          And Apple Maps removed that completely.

          Apple Maps is like going from a 3.0 Application back to a 1.0.

          "The marriage fight is over when we say it's over, and it's over when we win."—Dan Savage

          by Scott Wooledge on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 12:45:01 PM PST

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          •  Depends on location (0+ / 0-)

            Both Apple Maps and Google Maps suck in China so I use Baidu Maps which is better here in every respect except it's a Chinese Language only app so useless for ferners.

            Apple Maps:

            Con: Loads slowly, GPS tracking slow and notchy, no detailed transit information, limited augmented reality information.

            Pro: Vector map quality is great, 3D vector mapping reasonably complete, turn by turn accurate.

            Works better in Hong Kong where there is excellent 3G & LTE service.

            Google Maps:

            Con: Loads slowest, GPS tracking slow and notchy, GPS tracking sometimes in error (location lost or far off), no detailed transit information, limited and outdated augmented reality information, turn by turn not available, traffic data very limited.

            Pro: Vector map quality is great, 3D vector mapping is good (when it finally loads).

            Also works better with faster 3G/LTE.

            Baidu Maps:

            Con: Chinese language only. Coverage for non-Chinese countries very poor (useless).

            Pro: Loads fast even with EDGE/GSM connection, GSM tracking excellent (almost real time even with EDGE connection, Vector map quality is great, 3D vector mapping complete and up to date, detailed transit information for all mass transit,  traffic information comprehensive, turn by turn accurate, augmented reality comprehensive (do Google/Apple have KTV club category? NO?), neat features such as compass cursor and pull down menus.

            IOW, Baidu does for China what Google Maps does for the USA, which is not surprising since Baidu is the dominant search engine here and also has much faster servers.

            Google and Apple obviously suffer on server speed and Google's worst in class performance I would attribute to them bailing on China and re-routing traffic through Hong Kong. In both cases, loading is so slow that it makes GPS functions nearly useless unless you are walking- that slow.

            The older version of Apple Maps worked reasonably well in China but had scant augmented reality data. If they can improve the servers and wireless integration, it would be a big improvement because the functions available work well if too slowly loading.

            Google is unlikely to improve much, but I use it when traveling outside China.

            I think Apple Maps will improve with age and eventually provide a platform for integration of many map driven features (particularly geo-fencing) integrating with other apps, but this probably would take at least a couple of years to get up to Google's level because the database is massive.

            BTW, iPad mini is a huge hit in China. Sold Out. I went to the Apple Store just before Christmas to have a look and there were demos but purchases were already wait-listed.

            What about my Daughter's future?

            by koNko on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 10:40:54 PM PST

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    •  Check out Waze. (3+ / 0-)
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      Scott Wooledge, lineatus, Eric Nelson

      Free GPS (good map, gives directions) with alerts from other drivers in real time.  Police ahead, road work ahead, etc. and it gives you traffic alerts too.  So far it's worked accurately to identify addresses in NYC and upstate for me.  And it feels good to give alerts to drivers on the road with you!

      •  You're using your mobile device (0+ / 0-)

        to input data -- while you're driving? Umm, excuse me but that is NOT a good thing. Distracted drivers are literally death on wheels.

        What's wrong with America? I'll tell you. Everything Romney said was pre-chewed wads of cud from Republicans from the last 30 years and yet he managed thru a combination of racism and selling the (false) hope of riches to get 47% of the national vote.

        by ontheleftcoast on Sat Dec 29, 2012 at 01:19:10 PM PST

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