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  •  In NEW YORK? (3+ / 0-)
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    Houston, we have a problem.

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    by commonmass on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 04:18:52 PM PST

    •  Look What's Been Turned In In LA. (21+ / 0-)

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      Rocket launchers, military weapons left at L.A. gun buyback
      December 27, 2012 |  7:42 pm
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      Two rocket launchers and 75 assault weapons were collected Wednesday as part of Los Angeles' gun buyback program.

      "Those are weapons of war, weapons of death," LAPD Chief Charlie Beck said, motioning to a selection of military-style weapons on a display table. "These are not hunting guns. These are not target guns. These are made to put high-velocity, extremely deadly, long-range rounds downrange as quickly as possible, and they have no place in our great city."

      •  They are likely all over the nation. I would (4+ / 0-)
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        guess they just might suit a survivalist's fancy.

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        by cany on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 06:22:56 PM PST

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      •  Ooooooo, an empty plastic tube..... (4+ / 0-)

        DANGER, WILL ROBINSON!!

        Of course, it's the ammo for those that is highly restricted.  

        Good luck finding the projectiles for those.

      •  OFFS, way to tarnish a good cause (5+ / 0-)

        sporting a useless piece of plastic

        The AT-4 is a single-shot, disposable light anti-tank weapon.  The good officer in the pic is holding a very expensive piece of PVC pipe.  Wish they'd done the right thing and slapped the asshole who "turned in" that junk for $$$.

        The hysteria around that worthless, harmless junk just belittles an otherwise great effort and idea.

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        by Great Cthulhu on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 08:33:59 PM PST

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        •  I Know There's Been Quite A Bit Of Upset Around (3+ / 0-)
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          here about guns lately but IMO, in a diary about easy access to deadly weapons, the technically precise specifications for portable WMDs is just not relevant.

          That "useless piece of plastic" was described by LA police officials as one of two rocket launchers turned in at a Buy Back event.  Whether the launchers turned in are capable of firing one or two or ten rockets says nothing about how and why citizens in LA (or any other civilian community) have access to them.

          Gun advocates who hope to rely on insider jargon or argot are missing the bigger picture. Most Americans do not own weapons and they are not interested in the technical categories of these lethal weapons.  

          If that plastic tube can blow a hole in a tank, doesn't it bother you that it is available for purchase by civilians?  If some anonymous person has the plastic tube, who's to say he doesn't have the ammo too?  And is there a reason anybody other than a soldier needs to have access to plastic tubes that can launch rockets?

      •  Where the fuck does one get a rocket launcher at? (2+ / 0-)
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        The only place civilians should get to use a rocket launcher is in Grand Theft Auto.

        "How come when it’s us, it’s an abortion, and when it’s a chicken, it’s an omelette?" - George Carlin

        by yg17 on Fri Dec 28, 2012 at 10:38:05 PM PST

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        •  Hey my family does high power rocketry as a hobby (1+ / 0-)
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          It's when you can use a rocket as a weapon that it can turn into a MISSILE.  We launch rockets in the desert.  They go up.  They come down.  Usually the parachutes work.

          High power rocketry is legal (there are various restrictions and you have to work with a rocketry association, plus anything over a certain height requires an FAA clearance).  Guided missiles are another issue.

          Sport rocketry does not involve explosive or destructive payloads.  Rocket launchers as described here are not sport rocket launchers.  As to the "motors" used to launch high power rockets, well, I know where to get them, and it wouldn't be that hard to turn them into an offensive weapon.  But I wouldn't do such a thing, and the people who sell them seem to know who's into the hobby and who's trouble.

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