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View Diary: Willie Brown Style: Could Dems Elect a Civic-Minded, Ambitious, Less-Extreme Republican as Speaker? (53 comments)

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  •  Sixteen Republican votes is all (0+ / 0-)

    It's not completely unimaginable when there is booty for the victors.  Read up on how Willie Brown quoted poor ignored Doris Allen.  Some Republicans (besides Jones) must feel slighted; others must want off this unmerry-go-round.

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    "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back."
    -- Saul Alinsky

    by Seneca Doane on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 10:07:44 AM PST

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    •  Please tell me more about these enlightened... (0+ / 0-)

      ...Republicans that you seem to think actually exist. And no, I won't 'read up' on poor Willie Brown. Thanks.

      •  I names all of the possible candidates and votes (0+ / 0-)

        above.  What more do you want?  If 16 of them agree to shake things up so that we have a chance at a better process, great.  If not, then we tried something big to counter gridlock and they're the ones who blocked it.

        As for not reading up on Willie Brown -- your loss.  He's California's LBJ.

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        "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back."
        -- Saul Alinsky

        by Seneca Doane on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 01:31:02 PM PST

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    •  OK, look. (1+ / 0-)
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      Are they going to be willing to stiffen their spines and stand up to the disapproval of the rest of the Republicans and associated conservative infrastructure? We are talking about a lot of political/financial firepower here, and media firepower as well. If you think the RW noise machine did a job on John Kerry, just wait to see what happens if a principled, moderate Republican tries to take the Speakership by cutting a deal with Democrats. Whoever did that would be going up against forces that are terrifying in their power and scope, and politicians, for the most part, ain't that brave.

      And even if they were brave initially, how long could they stand up under the pressure? Not just the pressure leading up to becoming Speaker, but after that?  This is a very low-percentage play, one of those that looks great on the highlight real if Peyton Manning or Aaron Rodgers pulls it off, but which only happens once or twice every 100 tries.

      if necessary for years; if necessary, alone

      by SouthernLiberalinMD on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 12:06:03 PM PST

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      •  Great questions (and thanks for them) (0+ / 0-)

        Right now, getting past the so-called "fiscal cliff" with all of the blame falling on Republicans is worth electing a Speaker.  Hell, the Republicans and hurting badly enough out of it that they may welcome someone busting the logjam even if they later denounce them.  In any event, I think that Moore Capito is pretty much bulletproof; IRos-L too.  Neither are moderates, by the way -- just ambitious and maybe not insane.

        If they break under pressure and renege, won't that be a great story -- and one big enough for most people to understand?  I almost look forward to that!  Republicans in disarray and Republicans own the gridlock disaster, tied up with a bow.

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        "I love this goddamn country, and we're going to take it back."
        -- Saul Alinsky

        by Seneca Doane on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 01:39:59 PM PST

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