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  •  I'm seriously thinking (6+ / 0-)

    about tuning out to all these manufactured crises. MOST of it is bullshit. The ONLY crisis I see in going over the cliff is that 2 million people will lose their UE. BUT--how many of them stood to lose it anyway?

    You never hear that part.

    It is time to #Occupy Media.

    by lunachickie on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 04:11:44 PM PST

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    •  Seriously, no clue (1+ / 0-)
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      It's sad, but there has been so many differing perspectives on this that I really wouldn't put my name behind knowing what will happen if...

      I do know that flying off of the handle rarely helps even in an actual crisis. Even when the Titanic is actually sinking, I would be the last person to shout about it: I'd probably be having some wine and quietly trying to find a life vest ;)

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      by mahakali overdrive on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:29:11 PM PST

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    •  In New York, extended benefits went (8+ / 0-)

      out the window this month, because the last report had unemployment, the official number, going below a certain threshold.

      So how many states are, or will be, doing this, using the officially cooked unemployment numbers? Wherein kids entering the workplace for the first time are not counted as unemployed because they've never had a job; older workers are not counted as unemployed because they haven't had a job in too long.

      That's why I laugh, and cry, at lines like this:

      Analysts expect that the austerity crisis will weaken the economic recovery and quite possibly plunge the United  States back into a recession.
      A) What economic recovery? B) When did we leave the Depression, let alone be in a position to go "back into" a recession?

      The part saying the "austerity crisis" will hurt us further is real. But then, that seems to be the unspoken policy of the financial class and their employees in government in every circumstance.


      The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

      by Jim P on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 05:33:39 PM PST

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      •  Well, there's that: (5+ / 0-)
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        What economic recovery?
        I try not to go there when discussing the economic sabotage the President is currently fighting.



        Denial is a drug.

        by Pluto on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:15:16 PM PST

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        •  Point understood. (2+ / 0-)
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          Didn't mean to imply you are unaware of it either, as I know you are. Nor to sidetrack the diary. (Another excellent one by you.)

          We're constantly having to put out house fires -- and real fires they are -- set by the Republicans, while the tsunami races toward us. (The derivatives/bonds bubbles)

          Both kinds of threatening forces have to be dealt with, but they can only be dealt with in turn.


          The Internet is just the tail of the Corporate Media dog.

          by Jim P on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 06:25:11 PM PST

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        •  It clearly is sabotage, isn't it. (10+ / 0-)

          When the Bush tax cuts bill was passed, it held a sunset provision because of the Byrd Rule, which prohibits legislation that adversely impacts the deficit from lasting for more than 10 years.  In other words, Republicans knew they were increasing the deficit when they passed the Bush tax cuts, yet they want to extend them still and simultaneously howl about the deficit.

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