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  •  There's no such thing as a silencer (3+ / 0-)
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    They're called suppressors, and you need a Class III federal weapons permit to own one. You also need your local Chief Law Enforcement Officer to sign off and basically give you permission to acquire it. Then you have to apply with the ATF for the permit. Only then are you allowed to purchase it from a federally regulated Class III firearms dealers. It's a cumbersome process and not at all easy.


    I've seen some hardboiled eggs in my time, but you're about twenty minutes

    by harrylimelives on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 07:08:24 PM PST

    •  Is it a good idea to make it easier? (0+ / 0-)

      That's what the NRA is pushing.

      •  actually yes, they would make practice much (1+ / 0-)
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        safer on the hearing...

        Even countries with very restrictive firearms laws make noise suppressors easy to get.  Many if not most European countries allow suppressors and many recommend them to protect both the shooter and neighbors from the loud noise.  In New Zealand a suppressor is expected.

        From what this diary is, I cant really tell what they think the problem is.  In any high power rifle the projectile is supersonic and much of the sound comes from the sonic boom off the projectile.  Suppressors just soften the muzzle blast reducing the noise.  Only with special subsonic rounds in most calibers is any major silencing accomplished and they are not common at all except in .22 rimfire.....a round which is amazingly loud at standard velocity in a pistol.....

        To treat suppressors like machine guns which is current law is kind of silly when you really look at it. They are a safety device like ear plugs or shooting glasses only they protect everyone around not just the shooter.  In many areas where neighborhoods have moved right up next to shooting ranges, the owners of the houses would love the people at the range to use suppressors.

        For a crook, they double at least the length of a pistol making it much harder to hide and as such even though very easy to make, they arent used by crooks except in spy movies...

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        by buddabelly on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 09:09:03 PM PST

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    •  The NRA is lobbying to make it easier (1+ / 0-)
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      Silencers, suppressors, whatever you want to call them. The things that make the bang bang less loud. You should read the article.

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      by SwedishJewfish on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 08:33:24 PM PST

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      •  There was an article? (0+ / 0-)

        I'm sure it was lost somewhere in this horribly ill conceived diary. I'll find a shovel and dig through the paragraphs.

        Yes, I read the article too and the NRA can lobby all it wants, but suppressors will remain a class III device.

        I've seen some hardboiled eggs in my time, but you're about twenty minutes

        by harrylimelives on Sun Dec 30, 2012 at 09:42:20 PM PST

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    •  the NRA would like to change that (0+ / 0-)

      Because freedom.

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      by subtropolis on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 12:05:24 AM PST

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