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  •  There's this, too. (3+ / 0-)
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    idbecrazyif, pamelabrown, MPociask

    The RW has been so successful in advancing its agenda in recent decades, coming to dominate the American political landscape, by its persistence. When its talking-points haven't been well-served in the outcome of a particular negotiation or election, this well-funded beast just gets up and it tries again. The apparatus understands persistence, and it plays for the long term.

    Now, the GOP (and the whole RW) are truly, honest-to-God, over a barrel. They are in an unprecedented situation with these negotiations, against a popular Democratic president, and coming, as they do, on the heels of a string of shocking defeats in important national elections in recent years. Persistence won't work. The GOP won't just be able to bull-doze its way through, as in the past. It's not 1980, and it never will be, again. The conservatives badly need a new  game-plan. And we are talking here about people who don't "do" change especially well.

    Interesting times we live in.

    It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

    by karmsy on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 07:48:14 AM PST

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    •  There are many people who are hoping for change (1+ / 0-)
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      A republic doesn't function well when one side is as dysfunctional as the RW have been in the last decade.

      --Enlighten the people, generally, and tyranny and oppressions of body and mind will vanish like spirits at the dawn of day. - Thomas Jefferson--

      by idbecrazyif on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 07:52:12 AM PST

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    •  the bottom line is (2+ / 0-)
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      the GOP does not give a shit about what happens. They proved it when they allowed US to default during the debt limit crisis.

      we already know they only care about the 2% so unless the 2% are hurt dramatically, the GOP can be intransigent.

      Hoping to go over the fiscal non-cliff. best option at this point and makes a point to the GOP.

      mittens=edsel. no matter how much money is spent to promote it, if the product sucks, no one will buy it.

      by wewantthetruth on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 09:26:01 AM PST

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      •  Interesting way of putting it, thanks. n/t (0+ / 0-)

        It's here they got the range/ and the machinery for change/ and it's here they got the spiritual thirst. --Leonard Cohen

        by karmsy on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 01:15:38 PM PST

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