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  •  I don't think we need to change our positions (21+ / 0-)

    and philosophies.
    The Pres. has made it clear from the get-go that he (and Dems) had to restore people's confidence that gov. could work to solve our problems. He's made it clear that what was needed was a restoral of a middle class based economy.
    The problem is that the Wall Street controlled media has resisted efforts to paint a clear picture of what's going on.

    OWS' singular victory was in busting the monolithic narrative about debt and deficits and cast light on the erasing of the middle class by Wall Street. That has to continue. We have to have a realistic media in this country.

    1. The gop's concern about deficits and debt and spending is totally fictitious. It's just a partisan ploy. Paul Ryan brazenly voted for Bush's stimulus and deficit spending back in 2002, etc. Ditto for all the rest of them.

    2. The 1% and Wall Street have successfully pitted middle class and working class against the poor. In fact they have common cause. Our fates are intertwined. In fact Wall Street has been a massive tumor on the US economy. Wall Street has thrived on corporate welfare and depended on socialistic taxpayer bailout when it crashed the whole economy.

    3.  Modern infrastructure, clean energy, a response to climate change, etc. will create middle class and working class jobs.
    This produces revenues for state, local, federal govs. It allows poor people to climb out of poverty. It takes the strain off the social safety net. Etc.

    We do not have to change our postions or philosophy, we just have to present them to people over time and persuade them that this is in their best interest. Slowly but surely we're doing that. The past election showed that.
    Now we just have to finish getting the gop out of our way.

    You can't make this stuff up.

    by David54 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 01:01:37 PM PST

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    •  Yep. (12+ / 0-)

      Our policy positions are popular.  The GOP's are not, yet too many people vote Republican hoping that they might act less Republican and more like Democrats after they are elected.  They clearly aren't voting based on policies or ideology.  They are voting based on habit, emotions, or racism.

      GODSPEED TO THE WISCONSIN FOURTEEN!

      by LordMike on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 03:14:49 PM PST

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      •  The rabid, hard core base of the gop is the (10+ / 0-)

        religious right, and they have a tendency to cajole, nag, bully, peer-pressure other less rabid Christians to vote gop. I know that's true around here in N. Texas.
        I think some of the more sheep-like Catholics probably fell in line behind their bishops this year, as well.
        The gop have done a good job leveraging wedge issues and race, but I think that's starting to fail for them. I think we're looking at the beginning of the end on that.
        I think we'll have a woman Pres. next time up, too. She will be a Dem. I think this will totally rework the dynamic that is going on now with the gop stoking fear that Obama's going to commence a gigantic give-away to blacks if the gop doesn't obstruct him. They'll have nothing but a war on women to fall back on. That won't work.

        You can't make this stuff up.

        by David54 on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 04:44:22 PM PST

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      •  my experience with my family tells me (1+ / 0-)
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        that they vote for less favorable policies because the unfavorable ones are stable whereas the favorable ones are completely unsustainable.

        Take unions. Everything in the narriative tells them that unions are nice but unsustainable. Especially the pensions. They can point to cities going bankrupt and whole countries about to bring down the EU.

        or the idea everyone should have a house.. and then they point to the economic collapse..

        You get my point.

        Show them that liberal ideas are fiscally sustainable. Although I'm having a hard time believing that we will be with California near bankruptcy and also Detroit. It'll just be more evidence for their narrative.

    •  Very well put. /eom (1+ / 0-)
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      What about my Daughter's future?

      by koNko on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 02:08:21 AM PST

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