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  •  And can also be correclated with (2+ / 0-)

    color of cars owned by those impacted by the crimes.  Doesn't mean that there is any real link.

    In states such as Missouri that require no registration of firearms, how do we know how many guns are owned?  All we can say with any certainty is the number of NICS checks per day and those do not correlate directly to the number of firearms owned or even successful background checks that lead to a purchase.

    Please, don't misunderstand me, I do not agree with much of anything that LaPierre, Cox or Norquist have to say and nothing that Nugent says that I did not also say (very small number of things there).  I am not a member due to the Fear/Uncertainty/Doubt that they use to generate their money.  

    In all honesty, the vast majority of gun crime is perpetrated by criminals on other criminals, folks who were unable to get firearms using legal means and do not care about laws that restrict the rest of us who have not done anything to preclude legal gun ownership.

    Bowers v. DeVito "...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered."
    Director of Merchandising - the Liberal Gun Club
    Interim Chairman - Democratic Gun Owners' Caucus of Missouri

    by ErikO on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 11:58:33 AM PST

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    •  only one talking crime is you...the word used was (1+ / 0-)
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      too many people

      death...more guns = more deaths.

      some of us would like to reduce those numbers.


      We are not broke, we are being robbed.

      by Glen The Plumber on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 12:14:21 PM PST

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      •  Then we're talking mental health (0+ / 0-)

        not firearms.

        Suicides will happen more without firearms than with.  I have known quite a lot of folks that despite my friendship and attempts to help they ended their lives due to depression.  None used a firearm.

        The mental health of those who commit crimes is questionable or at least shows a poor sense of potential outcomes.  

        We have seen the steady defunding and ending of mental health initiatives since the '80's.  Reversing that trend would do a lot to reduce much of the crime.

        Death may be postponed.  That is definitely preferred.   Considering the millions of firearms that never harm anyone at any point, they are no more the cause than cars are the cause of drunk driving accidents or pools are the cause of children drowning in them.

        Bowers v. DeVito "...there is no constitutional right to be protected by the state against being murdered."
        Director of Merchandising - the Liberal Gun Club
        Interim Chairman - Democratic Gun Owners' Caucus of Missouri

        by ErikO on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 12:28:34 PM PST

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      •  Medicines kill. (0+ / 0-)

        It's inevitable that some people will die due to medicines' unintended side effects.  In fact, the unintended side effects of medicine kills more people than the unintended side effects of gun ownership.  Shall we ban all medicines?  

        "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity, and I am not sure about the universe." -- Albert Einstein

        by Neuroptimalian on Mon Dec 31, 2012 at 08:33:18 PM PST

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