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  •  I Would Thank Some To Speak For Themselves (1+ / 0-)
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    Rich in PA

    I do not revere mobsters, gangsters, self-styled "Kings" or terrorists of any kind or ethnicity. As far as I'm concerned, they are all trash and deserve to be treated as such because they are doing what they are doing as a choice. When they terrorize businesses and neighborhoods, they are making a choice to act in that way. No one is forcing their hand. When a baby in a crib is shot through the wall because some mutant thinks it's a good idea to just shoot a gun there's a problem with that person. When a bunch of people outside a house party are all shot because the person driving-by and shooting wanted to get one person then that's a problem with the shooter.

    I think the prison system in this country sucks. I think the death penalty should be abolished. I draw the line at feeling sorry for anyone who makes a conscious choice to be antisocial and to ruin the lives of other people whether that person is a gang member or a Wall St. sociopath.

    This head movie makes my eyes rain.

    by The Lone Apple on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 08:40:44 AM PST

    •  No one is suggesting (10+ / 0-)

      that gangsters should be revered.

      But undertaking an undertanding of the structure of street gangs, the subcommunities in which they form, and the peer pressures that create gang affiliation is necessary.

      Unless, of course, you just want to build more prisons.

      I think the prison system in this country sucks. I think the death penalty should be abolished.
      Agreed.

      "Everything I do is blown out of proportion. It really hurts my feelings." - Paris Hilton

      by kestrel9000 on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 08:47:10 AM PST

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      •  How old is the guy? (1+ / 0-)
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        Denise Oliver Velez

        can we say he is a product of Reagan's Revolution, where some got farther ahead than they should have and others were left farther behind?

      •  That mixes up two issues. (0+ / 0-)

        The most compelling conservative critique of progressives is that they confuse sociological explanation and individual accountability, or more precisely that they believe the former makes the latter less relevant.  We're seeing that in this diary and in some of the comments.  

        You know, I sometimes think if I could see, I'd be kicking a lot of ass. -Stevie Wonder at the Glastonbury Festival, 2010

        by Rich in PA on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 12:19:24 PM PST

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    •  Okay (2+ / 0-)
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      kestrel9000, Denise Oliver Velez

      I don't have much "sympathy" for the likes of Felipe, either.  But to me, that is beside the point.  The point is to what extent we're willing to sacrifice our humanity as a society in the name of justice.

      In a case such as Felipe's, the death penalty would be tantamount to a form of euthanasia.  I am against the death penalty, but it would be preferred to a life sentence of torture.

      Things work out best for those who make the best of the way things work out.

      by winsock on Sun Jan 06, 2013 at 09:05:55 AM PST

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