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  •  It will be at least this weekend until... (6+ / 0-)
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    ...some grudging acceptance that this deal is a bit more distant from the Apocalypse than initial diaries and the overwhelming comments to date suggest.

    It is less viscerally satisfying than going over the curb/speed bump/speed dip...whatever. The big thing out of this deal for me is that more than a couple dozen GOP Senators voted to raise taxes on somebody, which hasn't happened in 22 years. That will have consequences well past this Congress, well past this decade.

    Let me be clear: those who think this is a bad deal and puts us in worse position than before are entitled to that opinion. If you express it analytically and without casting personal aspersions, I'm likely to "rec" it even if I disagree with some or most of it. But I fully expect all of you to continue to fight and organize for all the battles to come. Because no one promised that any single event would be some "ultimate victory". That only happens in movies and video games.

    When you are right you cannot be too radical; when you are wrong, you cannot be too conservative. --Martin Luther King Jr.

    by Egalitare on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 05:44:25 AM PST

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    •  The deal PERMANENTLY lowers taxes on the... (3+ / 0-)
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      ...wealthy and PERMANENTLY lowers the estate tax from 55% to 40%. That stinks.

      It also gives away ALL of Obama's leverage on the debt ceiling, so the true stench of this deal will be apparent in about two months.

      Just wait and see.

      •  not really (0+ / 0-)

        the sequester for the other cuts come in 2 months.  That is a big chunk of defense spending cuts in there that Obama KNOWS republicans must pass.

        95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

        by PRRedlin on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 06:05:42 AM PST

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        •  I don't see how that is leverage (1+ / 0-)
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          Nobody wants those cuts to happen. Obama said himself during the debates that those cuts are never going to happen.

          •  kabukki theater (2+ / 0-)
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            no cuts will happen

            95% of all life forms that once existed on earth are now extinct. It is only a matter of time until the Republicans follow suit.

            by PRRedlin on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 06:15:21 AM PST

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          •  I'd be thrilled to see defense cuts happen, Ender (2+ / 0-)
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            There's lots of room to tighten up the war machine.

            Cantor just announced that "no decision on taking the bill to the House will be made today."

            “Social Security has nothing to do with balancing a budget or erasing or lowering the deficit.” -- Ronald Reagan, 1984 debate with Walter Mondale

            by RJDixon74135 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 07:16:33 AM PST

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            •  I'd be thrilled too. Don't see it happening though (0+ / 0-)

              Thanks for the news about the House.

              It reminds me of a quote from the movie, Airplane:

              Dr. Rumack: Captain, these passengers don't have much time. How soon can we land?
              Capt. Oveur: I can't tell.
              Dr. Rumack: You can tell me, I'm a doctor.
              Capt. Oveur: What I mean is, I don't know.
              Dr. Rumack: Well can't you take a guess?
              Capt. Oveur:...Not for another two hours.
              Dr. Rumack: You can't take a guess for another two hours?
              Capt. Oveur: No what I'm saying is we can't land for another two hours.

      •  There's no "PERMANENT" in tax law (5+ / 0-)

        They tweak something on it every year, and when the GOP and its think tanks go back (tomorrow) to harping on the deficitdeficitdeficit, and keep insisting on a thorough-going revision of the tax code, as far as I'm concerned they should be careful what they pray for as they might get it. If the Democrats retake the House in 2014 (dream on, but just saying. . .), or 2016, all sorts of things are possible.

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