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  •  What are the Dem options? (2+ / 0-)
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    bear83, wu ming

    Let the tax cuts expire for everyone.

    Don't give on the $250k limit.

    Make Repubs vote against a tax cut on all income for all taxpayers, including billionaires, under $250k.

    Watch Repubs blink and cave or get blamed for voting down this tax cut.  Or have tax rates go back to what they were under Clinton years for everyone.  During which time the economy was pretty good and we were running surpluses.

    Seems like a win-win situation for Dems if we don't cave on the $250.

    •  Only Dems can take a win-win situation (2+ / 0-)
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      lippythelion69, merrily1000

      and end up losing.

      No deal was better than this bad deal.

      Filibuster reform now. No more Gentleman's agreements.

      by bear83 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 10:24:55 AM PST

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    •  The Republicans control the House (3+ / 0-)
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      Jerry056, SingularExistence, FG

      You seem to think Obama controls what bills go to the floor in the House. Obama can't make them vote against a tax cut on all income under $250K. The House Republicans can easily amend the bill to raise the threshold to well above $250K and send that back to the Senate. Then it will be up to the Democrats in the Senate to vote up or down on a tax cut. Then the Republicans can easily blame the Dems for voting down the tax cut.

      "The only thing I would trust Dick Cheney on is if I had a dead hooker in my hotel room." --Jon Stewart

      by DemBrock on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 10:27:12 AM PST

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      •  You raise a distinction without a difference. (0+ / 0-)

        It doesn't matter if they send a bill to the House  Their failure to send a bill to the floor is in essence a "vote against a tax cut on all income under $250k."

        All the public will know is that because of Repubs there would be no tax cut on income below $250k.  They don't care whether it is because the Repubs voted against such a bill or because they refused to put up such a bill for a vote.

        No tax cut because of Repubs.  That is all that would matter.  What bills go to the floor is irrelevant in the realm of public opinoin.

        Dems could easily vote down a bill for a tax cut for income up to $500k and say that Repubs refused to vote for a tax cut for income up to $250k.  Who do you think would win that argument?  There are a lot more voters who make less than $250k than who make between $250k and $500k.  And the public opinion polls prove that the Dems had a winning hand on this issue.

        Dems stood firm on no continuation of the Bush tax cuts in their entirety and the Repubs couldn't convince anybody that a tax increase effective Jan 1 was the Dems fault.  Obama had a royal flush on the $250k limit and folded it.

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