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  •  I'm just trying to add to what you said. Not (2+ / 0-)

    taking you to task, Indy. I don't know how we include mental health without further violating privacy issues. It's not that I am set against something, but I just can't see my way through how that would be done.

    I just thought it might be helpful to see a state statute on the matter and relate my experience with that statute.

    202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

    by cany on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 04:43:23 PM PST

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    •  Someone who has never sought help , (4+ / 0-)

      someone who no mental health professional has interacted with , someone not

      a person who is deemed to be a danger to self or others and is a mental patient in a facility or on leave of absence from the facility;
      is who I am talking about .

      I was not talking about

      a person who is deemed to be a danger to self or others and is a mental patient in a facility or on leave of absence from the facility;
      The problem with the lets just improve the metal heath system approach is , a homicidal person who wants to buy a gun will not be forced to seek help or an evaluation even from mental health professionals . The seller of the gun has no duty / responsibility to assess the mental state of the gun buyer . Even with the best mental health system , if there is no requirement , a gun buyer with no history and intent to murder walks away with a gun .

      "Drop the name-calling." Meteor Blades 2/4/11

      by indycam on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 05:00:42 PM PST

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      •  I get your point completely. (2+ / 0-)

        In my example, my mom had NOT seen a mental health expert when I took the gun away, but I had an appointment for her which then didn't matter shortly after as she was taken to hospital by police as she called them to report she was being held against her will by strange men.

        So you see the difference.

        I get where you are trying to go. How in the world, though, can we ask laypersons to assess the mental health of another? In some cases it might be really obvious, but in others not obvious at all.

        My mom, for instance, could really fool people a lot of the time.

        202-224-3121 to Congress in D.C. USE it! You can tell how big a person is by what it takes to discourage them. "We're not perfect, but they're nuts."--Barney Frank 01/02/2012

        by cany on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 05:17:33 PM PST

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