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  •  I like the idea of starting "fresh", as it were (5+ / 0-)

    by letting the buck get passed onto the next Congress.  But, I believe it's magical thinking to expect anything better to come out of the Republican side of the House after we hit default.  "Magical" on the order of "rainbow ponies flying around the House during debate."

    I keep thinking about Ban Nock's diary and reading other anecdotes over the past couple of years on people struggling to stay afloat, in their homes, etc. after being out of work for so long, etc.

    I would be new, so would also speak with veterans such as Bernie Sanders, etc.  After weighing things, I'd go with both my gut and their rationale (which I've read online, btw) and probably vote Yes.

    "So, please stay where you are. Don't move and don't panic. Don't take off your shoes! Jobs is on the way."

    by wader on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 05:54:05 PM PST

    •  That's had a strong impact on me as well (3+ / 0-)
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      If I don't know what I'm looking at and the ramifications of it, I'm going to seek out the opinion of Progressives who are in Government, which is quite what I've done here, and from there, I have an easier time taking my cues. I'm sure Sanders sees the problems in this bill as well, but he said "Alright" to it. The man's far sharper than I am on economic matters -- and I think sharper than anyone on this site -- so I take my lead a little from that kind of thing.

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      by mahakali overdrive on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 06:11:16 PM PST

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      •  beside voting on it ... (3+ / 0-)
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        I'd love to hear his take on it, including his concerns.  To me, there are many concerns to be had.  The lesson to be learned I think here, is that Republicans are not to be negotiated with on anything that would last more than a few months, until they jettison the Tea Party.

        How is taking a hundred dollars worth of food from hungry kids or from old poor sick people equal to taking a hundred dollars from billionaires? -- howabout, 19 Dec 2012

        by billlaurelMD on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 06:16:31 PM PST

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        •  Except good thing we did negotiate (1+ / 0-)
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          with them because otherwise it would have died in the Senate, right?

          I've read some from Harkin. He says it was the 400K vs 250K and not much more. I'm looking forward to anything else from Sanders, but I haven't seen anything other than an announcement on the FP of his site, which to me says he doesn't have major reservations about it (although that could prove to be my assumption).

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          by mahakali overdrive on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 06:22:03 PM PST

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        •  Sanders on New Years Eve (3+ / 0-)
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          Bernie Sanders Makes It Clear: Republicans Are The Problem

          From the blog Liberals Unite

          By Brandon Weber

          Independent Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont said  when interviewed on MSNBC that Republicans were solely to blame for the lack of a budget deal to avoid the fiscal cliff.

          “The problem that Boenher will have in the House is that his caucus is dominated by right-wing extremists who are very hesitant, who will do everything they can to prevent the wealthiest people in this country and the largest corporations from paying a nickel more in taxes.”

          When asked by an MSNBC journalist, “Aren’t both parties to blame there in Washington?” he shot back, “No!” and proceeded to explain why.

          Video here: http://www.blogforiowa.com/...

          Looks like Bernie is clearly, clearly stating that the Republicans are the problem regarding the fiscal cliff.

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          by mahakali overdrive on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 06:30:01 PM PST

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