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  •  she can't even enter london (2+ / 0-)
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    much less the house of commons, without asking permission.

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    by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 09:53:16 PM PST

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    •  That's a legacy of the English Civil War... (4+ / 0-)

      And it's combined with the concept of parliamentary supremacy that arose from there and from the Glorious Revolution.  The fact, however, remains that per the Act of Settlement the most senior descendant of Sophia, Electress of Hanover, is sovereign in the United Kingdom and other Commonwealth realms unless otherwise disqualified.

      The UK and other countries that have Elizabeth II as their monarch might be de facto republics because all actual power is vested in the hands of the people through their elected representatives.  That, however, does not change the fact that de jure they are monarchies where the monarch is sovereign and rules.  Limitations on her power, even when formal, do not preclude this.

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      by Mets102 on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 09:58:20 PM PST

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      •  it's an honorific (4+ / 0-)

        if she attempted to exert any political power it would provoke a constitutional crisis. why would that be? or didn't google dig that up?

        The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

        by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 09:59:33 PM PST

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        •  What Constitutional crisis? (4+ / 0-)

          Could you please link me to the Constitution of the United Kingdom?  I'd love to read it.

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          by auron renouille on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 11:21:13 PM PST

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          •  exactly my point (2+ / 0-)
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            technically, there is no constitution, and the queen has no technical role in government.

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            by Laurence Lewis on Tue Jan 01, 2013 at 11:24:14 PM PST

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            •  This is where you are ALL wrong. (3+ / 0-)
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              There is no WRITTEN constitution.  Here in the US, our Constitution is the sovereign (NOT, as some would have it, the people).  In the UK, the Crown is sovereign.

              •  wrong again (2+ / 0-)
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                the classic line is that the british monarch reigns but doesn't rule. and there is no technical role, because there is little that is technical. but the convention is very clear, and prince charles last summer created a small kerfuffle by transgressing it:

                Leading constitutional experts tonight insisted the Prince of Wales has no "duty" to intervene in large-scale planning applications to promote the views of "ordinary people", as Clarence House claimed this week.

                Top lawyers, including an adviser to the House of Lords select committee on the constitution and several former government advisers, said Britain's unwritten constitution grants the heir to the throne no such obligation to step in on behalf of others, and said it is in fact his constitutional duty to steer clear of political controversy which could undermine the standing of the monarchy.

                by convention, if the british royal family gets involved in politics, it undermines its very existence. so the idea that the queen technically rules is twice wrong- there is no technical role for her, and even her conventional role prohibits her even involving herself, much less attempting to impose her will.
                "In so far as the constitution defines any duties, there is a clear duty to stay away from areas of political controversy." Lord Lester QC, who was appointed by Gordon Brown as a special adviser on constitutional reform, said elected representatives, not royals, are there to stand up for the public's interests.

                The cold passion for truth hunts in no pack. -Robinson Jeffers

                by Laurence Lewis on Wed Jan 02, 2013 at 08:25:09 AM PST

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